Explain how heaven is perfect when the devil was an angel living in heaven and he WANTED more; he DESIRED more power..the power to be god himself. So he not only raged war on god but was able to recuit other angels that were also unhappy and wanted more??? Finally devil is an angel in heaven when he lost the war he was sent to HEll.....correct??? then where did hell come from when the devil is an angel...all forgiving god created a place like this just to send him to it and decided anyone who CROSSES me will burn forever...how forgiving of him
2006-12-15 08:08:23 · 13 answers · asked by Nunya 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Why should He forgive someone that doesn't want to be forgiven? He IS forgiving and merciful, but he's not just gonna give it. If you were a child and you broke your mothers favorite vase, and you felt no remorse, and didnt apologize or ask for forgivness, would you expect her to not give you any punishment? Would you expect her to forgive you?
If one truely repents in his heart, God will forgive.
2006-12-15 08:13:00 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
Heaven is perfect and always will be. No one can desire more than this. The devil and his angels was cast out of heaven which was indeed perfect. Satan was rebellious against God. He could not live in heaven with this sin. Satan and some of the angels agreeing with him war against God and lost the battle and cast out of heaven. The devil did not go to hell when thrown out of heaven but roams the earth until the appointed time to go to hell. This account happened in Heaven before the creation of the world and therefore hell did not exist at that time. god is a forgiving and loving god and is not mean and serve justice when need be. To me the devil was a good angel that went bad. Just like you have children and they do bad things, do you withheld punishment from them.
2006-12-15 08:49:12 · answer #2 · answered by JoJoBa 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Why would a perfect omnipotent/omnipresent god need angles in the first place? God could be and do anything at anytime. Angels don't make any sense. Unless god isn't perfect. From what I heard Angels didn't have free will. Satan got anger about it, somehow without free will and confronted god.
2006-12-15 08:13:50 · answer #3 · answered by Magus 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Lots and lots of assumptions to correct...
1) God is perfect, and all that He created was originally created in perfection, including satan. What caused his fall was his pride because of what he had been given (wisdom, beauty, position). What he desired was the position of God and to be worshipped.
2) The fallen angels did not want more necessarily, but were deceived by satan into rebelling against God, who promised them more and convinced them that he should be god and be worshipped. They fell for it!
3) satan is not yet in hell, but will be sent there along with those who were deceived by him once his judgment time comes.
4) Hell was created by God just for the punishment of the devil and his angels (Matt. 25:41) It was never God's intention that man should go there, but if they follow satan's deception, that is the end they have chosen.
5) The same loving God is also a God of righteousness and judgment; It is His purpose to put an end to all rebellion, sin and imperfection in creation so that, in the end, everything will be restored to its original perfection for eternity. He offers forgiveness and restoration of relationship to all through the sacrifice of his son; this is the ONLY way to wash away sin before God. Sin is a blood disease, and only a sinless blood shed in death can pay for it. Jesus offers the only payment of value in God's kingdom; anyone who rejects that payment has no other option or access to God. It is a rescue mission, and they are rejecting the life raft of God and trying to swim on their own!
As a result, they are retaining their sin disease, and when sin is finally judged, they will be judged with it. All sin will be judged and removed at the appointed time, with or without the person. It is, as it has always been, a personal choice of life or death. Just like he did with the fallen angels, satan is deceiving people into thinking they can do it without God and that He is somehow to blame for their losses, ignoring the fact that He made the ultimate sacrifice on the cross to rescue us from the very thing we are always complaining about -- judgement!
Finally, Heaven is not our goal -- relationship with God through Jesus is. Heaven is his home, and where Jesus is, we will be also, just like a marriage; you marry a rich person, you live where they live and have what they have. But your goal, if you really love them, is not their home, but their love. The home is just one of the benefits!
2006-12-15 08:34:13 · answer #4 · answered by Rodeba1 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
there is not any hell. Your father is going to heaven even nonetheless he doubts it. Heaven is what you're making it. God would not require worship. do some diagnosis outdoors of the slender confines you have customary. there is multiple information obtainable approximately heaven in case you seek for it.
2016-10-15 00:34:56 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Not exactly correct he was cast out and fell to earth and is currently making misery here.Heaven was meant for those that are in agreement with God. Those who were not in agreement are no longer there and those of us who are not in agreement will not enter there. Satan is not in hell and truth be known hell is a grave which will one day be cast into the lake of fire I would invite you to seek God through his word and come to know him in place of judging a God you do not know. Understand that God provided himself to pay the penalty of death for you allowing his own flesh to be tortured and killed in your place that is about as forgiving as it gets. God is righteous and merciful...do you seek an unrighteous God? Those who sinned against him he paid the price for. There are many spiritual meanings behind the things that you would choose to judge God for rather than seek his truth. God is righteous and any righteousness you feel you have came from him your righteousness can not exceed he who created it.The truth is God is righteous but we are not.
2006-12-15 08:18:49 · answer #6 · answered by djmantx 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Not only that, but also mere mortals were not really impressed with god. In early days when he was hanging out with jews trying to impress them with his magic and stuff, every time he was not looking they were trying to sneak out and join other religions.
2006-12-15 08:15:04 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I believe that God wants us all. But He wanted to give us a choice. His wishes for us are not bad, it is just we suffer here many times because some people want to abuse our free will.
It did not take long for God to create this place. He is preparing us a better place, so it must be super!
2006-12-15 08:16:54 · answer #8 · answered by SeeTheLight 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
You only believe in part of God, but not the Real God- For God is yes Forgiving, but He is also JUST, and HOLY and RIGHTEOUS. He is merciful and loving....He is perfect, this is what is perfect. And God made us for Him...and we do not understand all of His ways, but those who believe in Him KNOW that God is a good God and His ways are JUST!
Deuteronomy 32:4
He is the Rock, his works are perfect, and all his ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he.
2006-12-15 08:14:53 · answer #9 · answered by Mandolyn Monkey Munch 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I believe Heaven will be perfect after I've learned all my lessons in the lives I have to live on earth.
2006-12-15 08:13:05 · answer #10 · answered by pieceomind4me 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Everybody wants to go to heaven but nobody wants to die.
2006-12-15 08:16:25 · answer #11 · answered by campbelp2002 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋