For those who think the war is about oil?

Question

Where is all OUR oil if we went there for oil? Where are the price drops for gas? (Im sorry I have only seen increases) Where are all the oil tankers lined up in the gulf waiting to fill up with Iraqi Oil? How much Iraqi oil did we ever bother with even before the war? (none) Wake up and stop spouting your ignorant rants, 98% of what you say is just chewed up opinions of others and it seems to me your ability to put together a viable FACT of the "oil war" is slim to none, leaning on the none side.

Answer 1

Good one, keep it up lil lady

Answer 2

Absolutely right! If we wanted the oil I'm sure we could just go take over any country we wish and take it. This war was about a ruthless dictator who snubbed his nose at the world, invaded a neighboring country, received an American beat-down, continued to shoot at our aircraft while enforcing the no fly zone, gassed his own people and the Iranians, tortured and killed not only those who went against his regime but also their families. Mass graves were found all over the country since the invasion took place. Even if no WMD's were found the numerous verifiable crimes commited by this government is reason enough to rid the Iraqi people of this man. NO, it wasn't the oil.

Answer 3

Oil is a factor, but its not what most people think.

A lot of people thing that we invaded Iraq to get cheap oil, but as you mentioned, look at what has happened to the prices. One of the purposes for the invasion seems to be to drive up the prices, and not for Saddam, or the Iraqi people. The oil was stolen from Iraq by our old friends the United Nations. I am told that it is now controlled by the International Monetary Fund (IMF), another gang of thugs.

The IMF is to nations, what credit card companies are to individuals. It entices them into going into debt, and when they default, the IMF gangsters take over the nation.

Getting back to oil, very few people seem to realize that there is no shortage of oil on this planet. There is oil in this country. There is oil off shore. What has happened is that OPEC has obtained a monopoly, and monopolies always require government help or acquiesence.

Our politicians have all become environmentalists! They can always find an environmental reason to make us dependent on OPEC. This is especially true now that we have an "Energy Policy". How can a free country have an energy policy? I thought that oil production and prices were a function of supply and demand.

To believe that Iraq was invaded to give us cheap oil assumes that our politicians are trying to act in our interest. This idea is not supported by the facts.

A conservative president would not get us entangled in foreign wars. A conservative president would encourage domestic production of oil, and nuclear power. Energy independence should be our goal.

Answer 4

The war is about oil, no two ways about it... I mean, no one anticipates sand to be valuable commodity in the near (and far) future. (=

But in my opinion it is analyzed from the wrong perspective...

The primary objective of the war war NOT to gain access to Iraqi oil, but simply to gain some (actually a lot of) power projection capabilities in the middle east. Tough most people never actually consider the logistics of a war, it is not easy for the United States to place some 500 M1's in hostile territory... in practice, in case of war overseas, the United States uses mainly naval aviation (aka supercarriers filled with jets that can bomb a lot =) and MEU (Marine Expeditionary Units), witch are light and can deploy from LPD (landing platform docks). The Army and Air Force are simply not capable of full deployment like a carrier group.

Unless they happen to have an operational base close by... (starting to get the point?)

If you happen to know a bit of geography (else, go get a map of the middle east), you immediately notice on country, Iraq. But of course, it's right in the middle of the map... conveniently bordering Saudi Arabia, Iran, Kuwait, and pretty close to the UAE and Quatar... if only we had a way to build some bases in Iraq, wouldn't be wounderfull to have some M1's and a bunch of F-22's in there... just in case there is some kind of revolution and they go hostile, deciding to stop sending oil to the US...

OH, but look, Iraq is in the list of EVIL countries... we can go in, build some bases, give back the oil to the Iraqi people, say we never bloody wanted it anyway, and "keep a few bases" just to make sure the country is "stabilized". If thing get tough, we can then let the Army and Air Force stretch their muscles full time... they have all the power projection they need to keep the oil coming...

Just my humble opinion though

Answer 5

First of all, oil companies are all publicly traded. Everyone is welcome to save their pennies and buy a piece of the action. Quit whining about oil profits. Now for the long answer. This isn't easy to explain in two paragraphs, but I can see by these responses that many folks are capable of rational thought and are not just sound bite repeaters.

Now for a dose of reality. National security is not achieved by sitting at home with your fist shoved, well, up somewhere. Part of national security is based on a stable economy, complacent population, general stability at home and abroad, etc. We have to believe that our government officials can see beyond the ends of their shriveled little members. There are many long term concerns, one of which is continued supply of raw materials and energy. Oil is hugely important. We are protectively holding on to our own reserves and trying to satisfy our consumption needs by buying the rest of the worlds' reserves. Very smart, but sometimes expensive and will force us to get into the knickers of others. Soooo my point is, there is a chance that part of the influence to go to war in Iraq was the fear that Sadaam could disrupt oil flow in the Middle East. I'm all for being able to keep the heat on all night in my house and I prefer driving to work over walking. Fight for oil?? Hell yes if we need to. Of course we all know this war is not going as well as we'd like (and that's bacause we're trying to kill bad muslims, not all muslims. Very tricky when they co-mingle!) and the oil impact is probably not what anyone wanted or envisioned. At the end of the day, someone profits from this. That isn't the point. The point is we need to solidify as a nation and get our head's on straight that we want our children to be safe and warm at night. That means being a son of b**ch sometimes and who better to do it than Americans!!

Answer 6

Yeah where is all that oil everybody said we were supposed to be getting? If anything gas prices have gone up. I wish more people would get their knowledge about politics somewhere other than the back of a greenday CD.

Answer 7

Pray tell, what is this war about. It is not about freedom or democracy. If it was how come we are such good friends with the communist nation of China and Viet Nam. How come we haven't gone into Syria, Iran, or North Korea? Why are we staying out of Darfur region of the Sudan? It seems to me none of these other non-democratic states has an abundance of oil. Why aren't we attacking the dictatorships in other parts of the world. It surely isn't about WMD's. According to George W. Bush himself, it isn't about 9/11. So, if you are so intelligent, tell me what this war is about. By the way, if you believe it is about keeping our freedoms, why aen't you over there protecting what is important to you and your family? Your opinion is nothing more than the chewed up opinion of Fox News and the White House.

Answer 8

No question about it, OIL plays a predominant role in the
international geo-political affairs of the entire Middle East.
The rich Saudi-Arabian oil fields are a region that the Saudis covet most vigorously, but they hire out all the research and developmental technology to the western world, namely the USA.
And that includes drilling and pipeline distribution to their
seaports, to load the pipelined sweet crude to the awaiting super-tankers, for further transiting and off-loading to their awaiting
customer's ports of call.
And remember there are trillions of US dollars invested into this
consortium, along with millions of Euros, from the European
nations who also want a piece of the oil pie.
Then there is China, and India two very large nations who also want their share, and of course, Russia who wants everything their way.
France, Germany and the United Kingdom are also part of this
consortium and they want a piece of the oil pie, too.

Now you have OPEC(Organization of Petroleum Exporting
Countries) who sets the price and deliveries on all outgoing crude oil from the Middle East.
One week the price per barrel of crude may be $67.00 per unit,
and hover in that unit cost, other times, the per bbl cost may rise to as high as $77.00 per and all of us consumers wonder why the increase?
If you go ask the multinational oil corporations such as Exxon-Mobile, or Chevron-Texaco, they tell us we do not control unit costing set per each BBL of crude, OPEC does that.
Well, I notice when the wholesale BBL price goes down, the cost
of a gallon of gas @the pump remains the same for all motorists,
what's up with that?

Why must the American motorists be held captive to be forced to pay higher gas prices @the pump?
Part of the reason why, as I see it, no one trusts the failed foreign policy put out by the Bush Administration, the President of the USA, his Secretary of State Condeleezza Rice is not the right
person to have been doing this job, although she has
impeccable credentials on her resume, academically she is well
qualified, but realistically the Arabs know she does not understand how the Arab mind works, and she feels frustrated,
because the Arab has absolutely no respect for women in authoritative positions, especially Secretary of State/USA a major
power player.
Ms. Rice is a Russian specialist, not Arab, and you should never
confuse the two.
So, we need a person who can think and speak the Arab tongue,
and P/Bush is not about to replace her, that would be an admission of weakness, if he did.
Rumsfeld was a different matter, P/Bush waited until the day after the elections to let Donald Rumsfeld make his resignation announcement.(Secretary of Defense) Long overdue, in my book.

As far as cheaper gas available to the motoring public coming from the Middle East, Iraq, if it ain't happened yet, it ain't going to happen, folks, as our government representatives don't give a
prune for the American motoring public, and they place no outside influence on all our multi-national oil corporations like
BP, just make sure all their taxes and licensing are up to date.

As far as the continuation of the war in Iraq is concerned, it will go on, we have already lost 2,800+ US military lives over there, and have spent over 700 billion dollars for weapons, munitions and support to fight that Iraqi war.
If this line of progress continues, we will be on the road to bankruptcy, in the not too distant future, regardless of robust economy or not!
P/Bush has no exit strategy to speak of, his "stay the course"
statement is one that he borrowed from the late former
President Ronald Reagan, "the great communicator" speeches.
P/Bush is a lame duck President, and only has until January
2009 to pass the baton to our next President ?(Hillary)

So, bottom line welfare, warfare, interest on the national debt,
somethings never change or put another way. "what we are never changes, who we are never stops changing"
(courtesy William Petersen's Grissom CBS TV network CSI:)
The oil war will continue as long as there is a demand for fossil fuels, when the demand lowers or dies, there will be another
source of alternative energy that we can all fill our autos with, but
until that time arrives, its going to be very close to what you said in your question, because no one will step forward to initiate change, they either are afraid or have no guts, no glory, or are
too complacent with their views about life in general.


Thats my message, good luck



Donald H. Sites
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Answer 9

It's only an ignoramus whose grasp of reality is at best foolish that would think the war is about oil. Your right man.!!

Answer 10

We are not there for the oil, Lady. We are there for the oil business. We are not pumping back oil, but dollars. And we regular mortals won't have a cut of it, just as we didn't have a cut of the millions coming in for the reconstruction of the cities. They had blast on their pockets from it, but we won't see a dime. They get to sell cheaper oil, but you don't get to buy it any cheaper. Where do you think the money is coming from, then?

Answer 11

Your question shows clearly that you don't follow the business news.
Nobody said the war was in order to provide oil for the (common) people. The war is being carried out for a few already immensely rich oil companies, and they have already mulitplied their profits by oil NOT being available, thus making prices go up.