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3: He was despised and rejected by men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief; and as one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4: Surely he has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted.
5: But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that made us whole, and with his stripes we are healed.
-Isaiah, chapter 53

6: For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government will be upon his shoulder, and his name will be called "Wonderful Counselor, MIGHTY GOD, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."
-Isaiah, chapter 9

In the New Testament, Jesus says in 3 of the Gospels that He is the Lord of the Sabbath (Matthew 12:8, Mark 2:28, Luke 6:5), and Jesus said that He existed before Abraham and calls Himself "I AM" which is the name that God identified Himself to Moses at the burning bush (John 8:58).

2006-12-15 04:42:09 · 16 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I have never understood that either.He is on every page if you have eyes to see and ears to hear.Those are both spiritual.He said I and my Father are one.When you have seen Me you have seen my Father.Since the Holy Ghost was the Father Of Jesus And Mary was over shadowed by the Holy Ghost that makes it the Father and Jesus the Holy Ghost.He said I and my Father are ONE.HE said before Abraham was I AM.IT says that thru and by Jesus every thing was made that was made.And to clarify when Jesus was praying that was the flesh talking the Christ part.who had to hang on that tree.The flesh who was the right hand of the Father that was the Word that was made flesh.The one whom they knew as God and glorified Him not as God.Yes HE was the only begotten of the Father[the Holy Ghost]the only Christ or sacrifice worthy to die for ALL sin.

2006-12-15 04:58:33 · answer #1 · answered by flossie mae 5 · 1 4

Notice that Jesus prays to One whom he calls “the only true God.” He points to God’s superior position when he continues: “So now you, Father, glorify me alongside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was.” (John 17:5) Since Jesus prayed to God requesting to be alongside God, how could Jesus at the same time be “the only true God”?

In its 1999 issue on the Trinity, The Living Pulpit observed: “Sometimes, it seems that everyone assumes that the doctrine of the trinity is standard Christian theological fare,” but it added that it is not “a biblical idea.”

Was Jesus Also Called God?
Although Jesus never claimed to be God, as Jehovah’s appointed ruler he is identified in Isaiah’s prophecy by the terms “Mighty God” and “Prince of Peace.” Isaiah’s prophecy adds: “To the abundance of the princely rule and to peace there will be no end.” (Isaiah 9:6, 7) So, as the “Prince”—the son of the Great King, Jehovah—Jesus will serve as Ruler of the heavenly government of “God Almighty.”—Exodus 6:3.

Yet, a person may ask, ‘In what sense is Jesus a “Mighty God,” and didn’t the apostle John say that Jesus is himself God?’ In the King James version of the Bible, John 1:1 reads: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” Some argue that this means that “the Word,” who was born on earth as the baby Jesus, is Almighty God himself. Is this true?

If this verse were interpreted to mean Jesus was himself God Almighty, it would contradict the preceding statement, “the Word was with God.” Someone who is “with” another person cannot be the same as that other person. Many Bible translations thus draw a distinction, making clear that the Word was not God Almighty. For example, a sampling of Bible translations say the following: “The Word was a God,” “a god was the Word,” and “the Word was divine.”*

Bible verses that in the Greek language have a construction similar to that of John 1:1 use the expression “a god.” For example, when referring to Herod Agrippa I, the crowds shouted: ‘It is a god speaking.’ And when Paul survived a bite by a poisonous snake, the people said: “He is a god.” (Acts 12:22; 28:3-6) It is in harmony with both Greek grammar and Bible teaching to speak of the Word as, not God, but “a god.”—John 1:1.

Consider how John identified “the Word” in the first chapter of his Gospel. “The Word became flesh and resided among us,” he wrote, “and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs [not to God but] to an only-begotten son from a father.” So “the Word,” who became flesh, lived on the earth as the man Jesus and was seen by people. Therefore, he could not have been Almighty God, regarding whom John says: “No man has seen God at any time.”—John 1:14, 18.

‘Why, then,’ one may ask, ‘did Thomas exclaim when seeing the resurrected Jesus, “My Lord and my God!”?’ As already noted, Jesus is a god in the sense of being divine, but he is not the Father. Jesus had just told Mary Magdalene: “I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.” Remember, too, why John wrote his Gospel. Three verses after the account about Thomas, John explained that he wrote so that people “may believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God”—not that he is God.—John 20:17, 28, 31.

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2006-12-15 07:48:25 · answer #2 · answered by TeeM 7 · 2 1

Mormons have self belief that Jesus became the son of God and that God the daddy, Jesus and the Holy Ghost are 3 seperate distict persons. We worship God the daddy in the call of Christ. We have self belief that Jesus became given all potential by using the daddy, that Jesus created the earth and is Jehovah, the God of the former testomony before he became born into mortality (Mormons have self belief that one and everyone lived as spirits before the international became created). Mormons have self belief that Jesus took upon himself the sins of the international in the backyard of Gethsemane, became crucified and became resurrected the third day. We have self belief that he lives as we communicate as a ressurected being with an immortal body. We have self belief that one and all issues are performed by using Christ and that because of his resurrection and atonement, we can all be resurrected and if we are honest to the covenant that we make with God, our sins will be forgiven and we can go back to the presence of God by using the grace of Christ. for the reason that we are all spirit children of God, Jesus is our older brother. Jesus is the reliable son. The topic of his life is to do the want of the daddy in all issues. He became the excellent and extremely last sacrifice for the sins of the international permitting God to be completely only (because God is ideal, sin must be paid for, there is not any short cuts) yet completely merciful also.

2016-10-18 08:09:48 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

These verses don't prove that Jesus is God, Jesus is a mighty god, but Jehovah is God Almighty, Jesus is the everlasting father as he took Adam's place as our eternal father in that now through him we have everlasting life. Jesus said, I was, corcerning being before Abraham as Jesus existed in heaven with his Father from the beginning. And what about Colossians 1:15 that says Jesus is the FIRSTBORN of ALL CREATION, not just some creation but all creation, and being born means being brought forth, created, Jehovah has no beginning and Jesus does which means Jehovah God created Jesus as the first of all creation. Proverbs 8:22-36.

2006-12-15 04:48:56 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 3 3

Psalm 83:18 (King James Version)
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18That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.

John 3:16 Jesus was created by his father. Check the meaning of begotten in the dictionary.

Jesus prays to his God
Matt. 26:39, RS: “Going a little farther he [Jesus Christ] fell on his face and prayed, ‘My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt.’” (If the Father and the Son were not distinct individuals, such a prayer would have been meaningless. Jesus would have been praying to himself, and his will would of necessity have been the Father’s will.)

John 14:28, RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”

1 Cor. 11:3, RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven. So the truth here stated applies to the relationship between God and Christ in heaven.)

Just before Jesus died he prayed to his God , "My God My God why have you forsaken me?"

2006-12-15 04:53:20 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 3

Jonn 17:3,5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. John 17:24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
Gal.1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning,
the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
Rev.3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

Matt.3:16,17; 6:9-13; 16:16,17; 22:37-40; John 14:13.14.15.26.28, 16:23,26; 20:17;

2006-12-15 05:06:39 · answer #6 · answered by jeni 7 · 0 2

Like anything else, verses taken out of context can be twisted to mean just about anything. When read in context...and in their original language, the meaning becomes crystal clear.

2006-12-15 04:46:29 · answer #7 · answered by mzJakes 7 · 3 4

What's you're question/point? Why don't you focus on living your life instead of trying to convert people of one false religion to your own on the internet through the asking of rhetorical questions. I respect and disagree with your beliefs but not your attempt to disregard the ideals of others.

2006-12-15 04:46:38 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 5

Another preacher. Instead of preaching, why don't you educated yourself in these religions to learn what and why they believe.

Also, Christians have completely misunderstood Isaiah. They made it say what they wanted it to say.

2006-12-15 04:47:54 · answer #9 · answered by Shossi 6 · 0 5

who was in the John @ 8:58 ?
Oh was that AM Or PM ?

2006-12-15 04:45:43 · answer #10 · answered by Golly Geewiz 4 · 0 4

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