Christian/Muslim creationist attack on education. Evidence of religious oppression?

Question

Creationists promoting ID as an an alternative and 'competing' story of life in earth, are attacking the education systems in the UK, the US and elsewhere in the world. They are trying to put evolution and other valid sciences into obscurity with this theology. Is this not evidence of the inherent oppresive nature of religion?

Just to be clear. ID and creationism are not scientific theories. Evolution is a scientific theory which has a vast amount of evidence to support it and no valid evidence against it.

Just to be even clearer. The education argument against creationism and ID (from both atheists and the church) is that theology is not science and should not be taught in the science class. Theology belongs in the religious education class.

Keep science science. Keep myths in in theology classes.

Answer 1

It is and there are many many more.

Answer 2

"No valid evidence against evolution"? Now who's attacking whom, and sticking fingers in ears? And who's got a persecution complex: "They are trying to put evolution and other valid sciences into obscurity"!?! Calm down ,and get logical.

Evolution and science will never be removed from the school curriculum in a million years. You're safe! And if you have the truth, you have nothing to fear from any opposition. You just present your scientific facts and shoot the opposition down in flames in the process. Yes, the competition is hotting up. But if you can't stand the heat you should get out of the kitchen. Belief in God creating life will never vanish in a million years either. We're all just going to have to learn to get along with each other.

But you are right to warn against aspects of the oppresive nature of religion because some people go way OTT in their 'enthusiasm' to condemn those who disagree with them. Of course, that holds equally good for science buffs who hate theists with a vengeance. We are beginning to see oppresive pressure on people in the realms of euthanasia, and that's even before it gets legal. The more science is worshipped as The Answer To All Humanities Ills, the more intolerance we will experience. It works both ways - right? So let's have a little respect and have the decency to listen carefully to what others say, then respond gently.

Answer 3

But you can't prove that evolution ACTUALLY happened. Maybe we do share a common gene or whatever with monkeys, but so what? Why is it only something which can be measured and tested is valid, and used as 'evidence'. So does that mean feelings, thoughts, dreams and many other things don't exist because there is no scientific evidence for it?

As a muslim, we don't have a problem with education, but because evolution is such a ridiculous theory, then what do you expect? Not all scientists even believe in it, and apparently it is not even proven. I don't really care about learning about evolution, It doesn't mean I have to believe in it, just like psychologists don't believe in ALL psychological theories. Science seems to have proven many of the facts that were already in the Quran before they were even discovered by scientists, so obviously we have nothing against science. It is just the theory of evolution which is rather ridiculous.

Answer 4

Get real. There are basically two schools of thought on how we all got here. Evolution and Creationism. (I know there are more theories on the fringe but these are the main ones). Evolution is still a theory. There is no hard scientific evidence supporting it. Creationism is also a theory. There is no hard scientific evidence supporting it either. Why not teach both in schools and let the children decide how they want to believe. Teaching only one side is biased. There should be freedom of choice.

Answer 5

Religion was only sent for those who are ignorant to see the truth by themselves. There are those who can see the truth no matter how small it may be.

And any form of oppression is against God sent doctrine.

For knowledge is important.

There is not a single verse on the face of the planet on how the humans were first created...we know there was an Adam and Eve and that makes sense because there had to be a male and a female to start the human journey. But how they became created is a mystery known only to the Creator.

If science can fully explain the loop holes and bring forth a universally accepted scenario of creation then I will still say...it was God that created it. Because eventually....you cant make a living breathing creature if you put a bunch of amino acids in a container and wait for it to form out on its own.

Cheers.

Answer 6

Don't know about the inherent oppressive nature of religion with regard to this question - strikes me it's the evolutionists and scientists who are being oppressive here! What are you all so scared of - open and honest debate? Since when was it a crime to present a different point of view? Remember when 99.9% of the people on this planet were convinced the earth was flat?

Answer 7

Oppression. Really suppression of free thought. Now, no one claims science is perfectly correct in everything. It is after all based upon theory, and theory can be changed or modified.
Religion is most usually dogmatic, subject to faith alone, and can be as wrong as anything else.
Charles "That Cheeky Lad" Happy Christmas!

Answer 8

Creationists mistakenly believe they're required to reject evolution with a view to be incredibly truthful of their faith. the situation is like this: Metaphysically naturalistic and scientifically realist atheists settle for the information of their senses and attempt to attain a rational end on condition that information. religious creationists settle for the information of their senses and a literal interpretation of Scripture as the two valid and attempt to attain a rational end on condition that information. the reason creationists do it incredibly is they are not prepared to doubt the information of the skill of prayer and the artwork of Christ of their lives, then from that (and that's the mandatory step), they believe in one and literal comprehend-how of Scripture which follows from their religious experience. They reject the concept of, to illustrate, dissimilar interpretations, allegory or the spirit of the be responsive to God as widespread. the way i see it incredibly is that creationism is anti-Christian. the myth of the talents means that people who do no longer use their divine presents are appearing against the opt for of God. because of the fact the rationality distinctive of human beings is a latest, they could be seen as effectively committing sin by using refusing to apply their reasoning. it incredibly is a marginally harsh judgment of direction, and it could be greater effective to assert that they try to thrill God contained in the final way achieveable. the element approximately that, nevertheless, is that i think they're afraid that utilising reason will undermine their faith incredibly than advance it. the different concern is that this. Humility is an significant component to the Christian existence, and that i incredibly discover it annoying to ascertain that creationism is a greater humble place than believing in evolution.

Answer 9

No, it's not. I'm an Agnostic, so I'm not pushing my "beliefs" (or lack there of) here. But seriously, Evolution is a theory that is taught as fact in most schools today. There is no solid proof of it. There is evidence supporting the theory but no proof. I think that the theory of creation should be taught in school along side the theory of evolution and any other theory on how we got here.

No one knows the truth, so we should be able to civilly discuss the options and teach various views in school.

Reverend Jank

Answer 10

The promotion of teh discussion of intelligent design in schools is not trying to put evolution or other 'valid' sciences into obscurity. We are arguing that intelligent design has evidence to support it and should be examined as an alternative explaination for the origin of life.

This is in direct contrast to the atheists cramming their religion down the throats of others. That is a very good example of religious oppression.

Answer 11

Not necessarily the inherently oppressive nature, but the inherently stupid nature of religion.