Why do people lecture about unwanted dogs when you inquire about wanting to breed or buy a purebred pup?

Question

I'm getting so sick of this. I love animals and yes, I do think it's horrible that there are so many unwanted dogs and cats. However, I want to show in AKC and you need a purebred dog. I would love to get into RESPONSIBLE dog breeding and would start off with one dog and do tons of research and speak with lots of good breeders and attend many shows before even considering breeding. I do love mixed breed dogs. They are great for someone who just wants a companion and isn't interested in showing! And there is nothing wrong with buying a purebred dog as long as you get it from a reputable, caring breeder! Most of these people who lecture are dog breeders and they should remember, that they were beginners once too! I have the time, love, patience, space, and dedication to become a good breeder. Why get down on me? If I ever won the lottery, the first thing I would do would be to open a shelter for unwanted animals. Please be more considerate!

Answer 1

So called purebreds die in shelters everyday. It is estimated the 50 -60 % of dogs in shelters are purebreds and half of the rest are the stupid "designer mutts" that someone thought would be cool.

There are plenty of so called purebreds and there is a rescue for every breed. These people watch for the breed to show up in the shelters and then they place them in their program. Most of the time when the shelters get purbreds they will call the specific breed rescue to come and get it. There is no need to breed right now we need to catch up on the supply we have.

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Maltese
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Yorkie
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Daschund
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Lhasa
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Poodle
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Boxer
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Labrador
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Golden Retriever
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Beagle
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Schnauzer
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Pit Bull
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Pyr
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Newf
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Answer 2

Okay, can I break this down? I see nothing wrong with going through a breeder to get a puppy--as long as you check them out and they are NOT a backyard breeder or a puppy mill. Buying "purebreds" over the internet is a no-no, as well as buying without seeing the dogs first (not saying you did, but lots of people do and say they found a "reputable breeder). There are tons of websites that explain how to find a reputable breeder--make sure you know how to spot one. Breeding dogs is a little iffy. Did you do health checks, make sure your dogs were excellent examples of the breed? Because if you didnt, then you really just found two purebreds and slapped them together. And just because the puppies are purebreds, doesnt mean they are any better than a shelter dog, if not health tested and excellent examples of the breed. Remember, you CAN find a purebred in a shelter, or a breed rescue. Or from a reputable breeder. Spay/neuter contracts are great, I applaud you, but without all the other things you really just put puppies in homes that could have belonged to rescue or shelter dogs. And I'd like to say, none of us really CAN know anyone else here. Except for a couple of my contacts that are my friends in real life, and myself, I dont know you from adam.

Answer 3

I think it's just that these people who get down on you have big hearts for the orphans. When you have an emotion that strong for something it's hard to see past it. People are so overwhelmed by the number of homeless pets and irresponsible breeding that we (including myself) can't see anything else in the dog world.

I understand the reasons behind professional breeding and I understand the requirements in the world of showing. But what stands at the forefront of my thoughts are the orphans. Can't help it, I'm just wired that way.

Not to mention the fact that if you read through some of the questions on breeding it's always after the fact. "My dog got pregnant and I don't know....", "Neighbor's pit got out and my poodle is pregnant..." I have a beautiful Pit, how do I breed it?". It's difficult to be objective when so many are NOT being responsible. It's assumed that if someone asks they're being irresponsible. Especially because YA is not the place to go for an education. Opinions and experiences, yes, but an education? No.

Answer 4

" Most of these people who lecture are dog breeders and they should remember, that they were beginners once too"

I doubt most the breeders (the good ones anyway) started out by having an 'accident' or breeding a litter of whatever poos, and then asking about the basics on a public forum.

Sounds like you are going about it the right way, nothing wrong with that!!!


JR - Actually, in a recent study (done by a group that is NOT a radical AR group, but involved with shelters) they found that shelter dogs were only 8% PB.

Answer 5

The problem is not the responsible breeders. If you were to do as you suggested in your question then there'd be no problem. Without responsible breeders breeding for excellence, the only dogs available would be those from backyard breeders, with no checks for health or temperament problems, etc.

Responsible breeding helps the gene pool stay strong and is in my view very important.

The problem I have is with those who have already bred or decided that they are definitely going to breed BEFORE finding out about it. Those who want to breed just any dog, or just any dog with papers.

THEY (not you - it sounds as though you know where to look for guidance) are the ones responsible for the thousands of animals being needlessly destroyed. THEY are the ones responsible for genetic defects still being prevalent within the gene pool.

Unfortunately THEY are often the easiest to find when unsuspecting people are looking for a puppy.

Answer 6

Just to let you know why I am against indiscriminate breeding, a friend of mine works for animal control and I went with her one day while she was taking some of the bodies of dead dogs to the local dump.

There must have been 30 or 40 bodies in the back of the truck. She started backing up to the dump area going faster and faster and slammed on the breaks, and some of the bodies were dumped, but not all so she pulls way up and starts going backwards again to see if she could get them all out so she wouldn't have to get up there and push them out.

This is my reason for being all up in the air about indiscriminate breeding. Remember that a compentant breeder culls their litters so that they are not putting poor quality pups out there.

Answer 7

If you are going to do all that you say? No one here will be upset with you. It's the millions of idiots that buy from pet stores, buy from mills, think that just because their dog came with papers it is breeding quality and the others that just don't care and will mix anything for a buck. Designer dogs are being sold in record numbers and not one of those breeders is reputable! 99.99 percent of those asking about breeding are not doing what you claim. They are too busy getting excited watching their dogs GET IT ON and daydreaming about the CUTE LITTLE MUTTS. They don't think past that.

Answer 8

I agree with you. I work in this industry and it frustrates me to no end that people will be back yard breeders and then get all torqued when they are accused of being irresponsible. Being an AKC breeder is much different, though. I think most people know that. I respect AKC breeders at work much more than my neighbor who wants my help whelping her pitbull.

Answer 9

we have a pure bred Rottweiler from an excellent breeder we research for months before
we have had animals in the past that were from the humane society and loved them just as much
I think that the lecture is for those who might not be as responsible as they think they are and it is meant to educate those who do not really know what they are getting into

the rest of us have to hear it but should also understand without the lecture there is not education and not all breeders are bad

Answer 10

We get down on you because we want only those who are in our circle (the show circle) to breed dogs. People that aren't breeding their dog to get a new perfect show dog don't need to breed. That's how I see it, that's how we see it, and that's how it is!!! I was lucky in that my folks were the beginners, I was raised in a show family and so I never had to go through all the learning process as it was all right there for me. Now I'm putting it to use and plan on becoming a handler and maybe later a judge.

Answer 11

because, people think they can say whatever, blunt, rude, haughty thing they want when they type. You aren't standing there to have a conversation with them, so they just blast you with whatever trumped up opinion they have to make them feel intelligent and morally superior.

i would adopt, however, There is value with reputable breeding as well. However, I have found that if you have a question on a hot button topic like pet health, breeding, social rules and ettiquet, medical issues, religion, and politics, you should have a real conversation with a real person. On the internet, all you get is some random nobody who sounds just like my mother in law...

"Well, to be truthfully honest, here's how it is." and you just know you aren't going to like what she's about to say.