Hypocracy? *may have spelled that wrong...*?

Question

If purebreds are so healthy and worthy of being bred, then why are the ones that are bred *certain breeds* so prone to problems giving birth? We generally don't think it's a good idea for people who are near guarunteed problems in the delivery room to have children, what makes purebred dogs so different?
Breeders are losing fuction to form, and if we don't change some breeds from being almost c-section only, purebred prices are going to continue rising. A few years ago, my neighbor paid $600 for an English bulldog. Recently, she's been in the market and I think she said they were going to charge her $2000 for the puppy. Do you see my point?
If anyone has a list of birthrates and such for purebred AKC dogs, I'm interested in it so that I can add more truly concrete details vs. what I already know, which is mostly what people on this site have answered me.
And with purebreds, it's supply and demand. I plan to let the world know that. Read on into the question....

It's all supply and demand, right on back to the sire. A sire would not cost so much if it was a less desireable breed, even with all the proper health certificates. The more a breed is wanted, the more the breed will cost, and a breeder that tells you you're paying for all the previous care of mother and father and such along with the puppies has all of those things paid off after a few years, and thus should drop their prices to honestly charging what it cost to produce the puppy. Also, if you breed to a standard that makes birthing hard, is that really such a good idea. Gimme an "AYE!" if you're for form AND function.
*as in, a dog that emmulates the standard, but not to the point where birthing the puppies will be problematic. if the standard is made that way, it should be changed*

I'm not going to put every person that has responded down here, but I will point out the fact that EVERYTHING is supply and demand, but have you ever heard the folks at Cocacola claim that you're paying for what it really cost to produce a bottle of soda? I never have.
Anyone that answered dissagreeing with me failed to realize that everyone who has ever deffended purebred prices say you're paying for what it cost to produce the puppy and there's no such thing as proffit for a breeder.
Also, if you think that no one takes their mutt to the vet, you're a freaking idiot.
And breed standards often times DO contradict what would be better for breeding. A big dog with the pelvis of a "teacup" poodle that gives birth to average sized puppies is going to have issues, breed standard or not.*small exageration*
Not every standard for a breed considers function and health, per se. That's my point, and if you don't see that you're no smarter than the guy that thinks mutts don't need vet care.

Closeing details because there wasn't enough room to say what I wanted in the comment thing.
The anwer I chose got the worst rating but indeed had the most valid point. Inbred people have problems, why would animals be different? The likelyhood of genetic deffects due to inbreeding is not species specific. Breed a mouse to her brother, then siblings of each of the following litter and let's see what happens after a dozen generations. Come to think of it, I kinda would like to see a picture of a severely inbred animal that could prove to all of you just how much of a bad idea it is.

Answer 1

If you were a perfect human specimen and your daughter was a perfect human specimen, breeding you together would not create a perfect human specimen. This is the problem with some animal breeders; they inter-breed dogs that are from the same bloodline and end up with imperfect puppies.

Answer 2

Yes, there are times when purebred dogs have problems giving birth and require a great deal of medical attention to make sure they, and the pups, survive childbirth.

However, I don't think that the reason for this is because the dog is a purebred. I think the reason is that the purebred dog has been bred by an irresponsible breeder somewhere down the line. Because of this supply and demand, there are many breeders who will cut corners just to produce the pups. This not only affects the quality of the breed as a whole, but can be very damaging to the poor dogs being bred.

Of course breeders mark up their prices! The responsible ones need to cover a lot of overhead costs, and of course they need to make some money! You don't expect these people to responsibly breed dogs for free, do you? And of course the irresponsible ones are marking up the prices...if they were ethical, they wouldn't be breeding that way to begin with.

But mandy, you can't change supply and demand; its a basic function of our whole society. There's no point in complaining about it. You can become more active in raising awareness of irresponsible breeders and work to eliminate them, but that's about it.

Answer 3

I am not really sure what you are saying. When you say breeders who exactly are you talking about. A reputable breeder doesn't try to design dogs. They selectively breed dogs to maintain the standard. I only breed my Saints to better Saints. I am not trying to shorten their legs, make them less drooly or shed less. I love the breed just the way the breed is described. Reputable breeders and Profit breeders are worlds apart. And the TRUE culprits are the buyers of such designer dogs. IF THERE WASN'T A DEMAND THEY WOULDNT BE BRED!!!!!!!

Answer 4

You mentioned Bulldogs, so I will relate my response to them. What makes a Bulldog a Bulldog is a big head - the bigger the head, the tougher to whelp. That is generally why they are c-section pups. There are other breeds with obvious genetic issues that people buy because they think they're "cute". Sharpeis were once just too adorable to pass up - yet they are medical nightmares.

As for birthrates - that is not as readily available as the AKC litter and individual dog registration numbers. Of course not all dogs with AKC papers are registered with AKC, but it does give you some sense of how the numbers change. Check it out for the specific breeds you are interested in at http://www.akc.org

I do see what you're getting at, but as long as people are out there asking for this or that breed trait, someone is going to breed for it. Personally, I don't enjoy breeds that require unhealthy manipulation to meet a standard. Look at the extreme slope on your average AKC show German Shepherd - it's nuts and very unattractive. But it wins. It is up to breeders to step up and demand change. That's the only way it will change.

Answer 5

You need to see the weird humans that continue to breed and have defected children inspite of counseling.That would shock ya. Buy a mixed breed and don't partake in the so-called perfect breed. Mutts make better dogs.Have a dog-gone great day.

Answer 6

Oh I wherein it should had been spelt improper, I uncover it instead vulgar, Erm doesnt take a lotta brains to paintings that one out nor could it for the more youthful neighborhood easpecially right now of night time, Your a jerk-is that spelt correct?

Answer 7

My boyfriends purebred dog is "special" in the "would be picked last for kickball" sort of way. Our shelter dog is amazing.
Yay for rescue pups!