ok i need ur opinion ..?

Question

ok im planning on buying my camera from ebay and im set on buying the canon 30d..but the question is should i buy the camera then everything else...or should i just buy everything at once heres the link to a PACKAGE BUY http://cgi.ebay.com/Canon-EOS-30D-Digital-SLR-USA-Camera-3500-PKG-30-D-NEW_W0QQitemZ130057105821QQihZ003QQcategoryZ43454QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

is that even worth its price? are the lenses a good mark? what would u recommend..and this everything im buying i want to last a long time b/c i want to start a little side photography business

Answer 1

go w/ the 30d

Answer 2

The Canon 30D is a great camera, no doubt about that. But the question you need to ask yourself before you go crazy on accessories is: Do you need them?

It's always cool to show off to friends by having 18 lenses, 12 flashes, ring lights, etc - but if you only use 1 lense and 1 flash - the rest is a waste of money.

Figure out what you wanna photograph and then choose a package that works with that. If you just want to photograph nature, then choose the 30D with a decent zoom (70 - 300) lense and a speedlight for the flash. Then use the money you saved (by not buying the accessories) to purchase some books on nature and scenic photography and maybe even a macro lense later on.

If you want to do portraits then get the 30D with a fixed 70mm lense or a small zoom (35 - 90) lense and a nice strobe flash. And use the excess money to purchase some books on lighting and portrait photography.

From the sounds of it - you aren't anywhere close to starting your own photography business. Take a lot of time to study on the main point of interest you want to photograph.

Answer 3

Hi DanNy,

The 30D is a great entry level professional camera but the Tamron lenses are not a good match. Furthermore, the problem with the "kit" lenses (or lenses which come packed with the camera body) is that they are the inexpensive consumer lenses. These kit lenses at normally apertures of f3.5 or f4.0 which will struggle to get enough light. And the primary role of the lens is to capture light.

You can consider buying the "body" of the camera only and invest in a good "pro" lens with maximum apertures of f2.8. These lenses are expensive, but good lenses will outlive the camera bodies.

ANother option is the Nikon D200 which is at the same level of the Canon 30D. Note that Nikon discourages pairing their pro cameras with consumer lenses so the Nikon D200 is sold "body" only. Since I'm more familiar with Nikon, and since you are looking at a pro camera, the pro lenses you can consider are the F2.8 17-55mm, F2.8 70-200mm but each of these lenses can easily cost as much as the camera body. But again, your lenses will outlive your camera.

My suggestions are:
1) If you choose Canon 30D, just get a package with one Canon kit lens (dont go for Tamron), something in the 18-70mm zoom range. The kit lens is light and useful for everyday use. There is no need to get a package that includes two non-Canon consumer lenses (one consumer lens is bad enough....hahahaha). Later on, if budget permits, get a pro Canon zoom lens (f2.8 maximum aperture opening). Canon lens for Canon body.

2) Invest more on lenses than the body. You can even look into buying a Canon 400D or a Nikon D80 and pair it with a pro lens. They are both great cameras and they will last a long time.

3) Barebones pro photography kit =
a) Canon 30D + Canon EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS USM;
b) the Nikon D200 + Nikon ED17-55 f/2.8 Dx (dont forget to get a Canon 580 flash or a Nikon SB800 flash).

Enjoy!

Answer 4

Go with the kit!

Most places you'll find just the body with one lens for the same price. You may as well get what is in the package deal and as you learn the camera more and find out what your needs are, purchase those items individually. This is a good basic starting point.

I have the 30D and it is AWESOME!!!! I did purchase a 17-85mm lens with image stabilizer and it was worth it.

Answer 5

The most important piece of equipt you have is the lens. and AF lenses must be of the manufacture of the camera. Thus, A Canon must have Canon lenses... you will cheat youself of some great images if you don't use the proper lens.

Again... the most important piece of equipt is the lens you use!!!

beaux Patrick
30years a photographer and teacher of photography.

Answer 6

My suggestion before buying any camera would be to go to
www.dpreview.com and read the reviews
they give quality indepth reviews on all camera

My money is still with the sony cameras with the carl zeiss lens

here is the overall conclusions pro;s and con's on the canon 30D
Conclusion - Pros
Excellent resolution, very good per-pixel sharpness
Good tonal and color response, same as EOS 20D 'Parameter 1' in Standard PS
Now with four metering modes, spot metering very welcome
Trademark Canon CMOS noise free images, remain detailed even at high sensitivities
About a third of a stop more sensitive than indicated
Confidence to use camera at high sensitivities (ISO 1600, 3200)
Excellent long exposure capability, no noticeable hot pixels at 30 seconds with NR off
New Picture Styles make it easier to get 'ready to use' results straight from the camera
Wide range of image parameter adjustment (-4 to +4 for most)
Instant power on time, excellent operational speed, always feels responsive
Five frames per second continuous shooting, excellent buffering, fast CF throughput
Good nine point auto focus system, works well even in low light
Selectable color space (sRGB / Adobe RGB)
Supports both EF and smaller, lighter EF-S 'digital' lenses
Excellent build, very robust, good ergonomics (although buttons a little small for gloves)
Built as a Digital SLR from the ground up
Proper RAW+JPEG with immediately selectable JPEG image size
Much less of a 'dust problem' than CCD-based digital SLRs (less static? distance to LPF?)
Excellent supplied software bundle, remote capture and good RAW conversion (DPP)
Quick magnification up to 10x (perfect for checking focus), easier panning (joystick)
Excellent battery life, light weight and small batteries (now more powerful)
High pop-up flash, should make red-eye less of a problem
E-TTL II flash metering, includes distance information from lens
New large 2.5" LCD monitor
Playback jump by 10, 100 images or by shot date
USB 2.0 Hi-speed connectivity
Orientation sensor
Optional WFT-E1 wireless transmitter (802.11 b/g)
Value for money
Conclusion - Cons
Average automatic white balance performance, still very poor under incandescent light
AI Servo (continuous AF) interference banding issue (certain lenses, high sensitivities)
Same old 'CF compartment door shuts camera down' issue
Picture Style differences between RAW Image Task/Camera and DPP
Picture Style tone curve not indicated in camera menu (contrast is an offset, not absolute)
ISO sensitivity not displayed on top LCD panel / viewfinder status permanently
Flash must be up for AF assist lamp (although AF is good even in low light)
Confusing sequence of lights in AI Servo auto focus
Virtually unused 'print / share' button should be a customizable
No user memories
Overall conclusion
Maybe Canon do listen, with the i EOS 30D they have addressed no less than five of the 'Cons' from my EOS 20D review; Lack of spot metering, Fixed continuous shooting rate, Limited range of image parameter adjustment, Small LCD monitor and ISO sensitivity not displayed on viewfinder status bar while being changed. Of course everyone has different priorities and some of these changes may seem insignificant however it's fair to say we've seen all of these issues discussed at one time or another on our forums.

It wasn't surprising to see a certain level of disappointment among existing Canon owners in the evolution that is the EOS 30D, I'm sure some were at least expecting a nominal megapixel upgrade as well as the changes included. I happen to agree with many who suggested that the EOS 30D should really have been named the 'EOS 20D Mark II'. To be fair an increase to ten megapixels would have gained little in resolution and to one degree or another its encouraging to think that manufacturers are getting out of the routine megapixel upgrade 'for the sake of marketing'. And of course Canon couldn't have gone to twelve megapixels at this price point (yet) for the fear of spoiling the EOS 5D's position.

There are a few minor gripes, from an imaging point of view there's the risk of AI Servo banding which can manifest itself with some lenses at high sensitivities and there's also the average incandescent white balance performance. From a usability front I would like to have seen the pretty pointless print / share button customizable, the option for user memories and perhaps embedded comments which can be set in-camera.

We have to consider every camera as a whole, the sum of its parts. Compare it to the competition and it's clear that the 30D really can hold its own. The primary competition coming from Nikon's excellent D200, a camera which in many ways betters the EOS 30D, user interface, features and flexibility are all a step up. However as we have noted there's no significant difference between eight and ten megapixels (especially considering the EOS 30D's "crisper" per-pixel sharpness) and that the D200's sensor just isn't as good as the Canon CMOS at higher sensitivities (ISO 1600 / 3200).

Nobody should then be too surprised that the EOS 30D, despite its relatively minor range of updates still deserves our Highly Recommended rating. It's a great camera to shoot with, image quality is excellent and the high sensitivity performance is still notably better than the competition, the EOS 30D inspires confidence and delivers shot after shot.