If you had to bet on two fighters.... one is Ju-jitsu, the other is a striking art like TKD/Karate/KungFu?

Question

If everything else is equal. Who would you put you money one to win?

*Who would you put your money on to win

hey super steve; re-read the question - "everything else being equal", I cant stand when people answer and dont bother to read the question

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Answer 1

Assuming we're talking BJJ and we're only talking striking arts like TKD, Karate and Kung Fu, which usually don't train real fighters, and everhything being equal, the jits guy.

We've seen example after example of jits guys being able to take down someone and submitting them. The only chance that the tkd/karate/kung fu guy has is to knock the jits guy out, because those martial arts do not focus on ground fighting, and once taken to the ground will either get submitted or lose superior position and get GnP'ed to death. It's relatively difficult to knock someone out unless you're alot stronger, alot bigger or alot more skilled. Everything being equal, you need to be very lucky to knock someone out before they can close and take you down. As TKD, Karate and KungFu don't practice sprawl defence or judo style takedown defence, there is no doubt that the jits guy will take down the stand up fighter.

If we're talking about traditional jiu jitsu... then it depends on what style you're talking about. if it's a style that practices aliveness versus a dead version of tkd/karate/kungfu, then ok, the japanese jits guy will win because he's practicing alive. but let's face it, the broad majority of japanese jits tkd/karate/kungfu are all dead.

Answer 2

Well, that's pretty simple, you are pitting a soft martial art against a sport martial art or in some jujitsu, a hard martial art. And beyond that, jujitsu has a great deal of striking in it. It also has a great deal of grappling, it has striking in the grappling. It has groundwork, it has striking in the groundwork. It has pressure points all over the place. Traditional japanese jujitsu is a very complete martial art and at least over 60% of it is practical in actual fighting for most styles that i know of. Your question is like asking which would win? A wooden knife, or a steel one? Sure you could kill someone with a wooden knife, but a steel knife is far better suited to the task. So i would put as much money as i could possibly get in the time i had, and put it all on the jujitsu fighter (if he is pure jujitsu and if the other guy was pure tkd or karate) Kung fu however, does have a lot of good stuff but so much of it is hidden in a quagmire of forms. Read some of bruce lee's books if you want to learn about that.
Yes, money on the jujitsu guy, and i am pretty sure my reason is fairly sound.

Answer 3

Well we watched Gracie dominate all the Karate and Kung Foo champions bac in the early 90s. And today JJ fighters still dominate them. However in the case of Sean Sherk he was a very skilled wrestler before getting into MMA and then trained in boxing so. A B/JJ fighter with little or no strikes probably won't win over a Wrestler with strikes...
Liddell is a perfect example of a Kempo fighter and a wrestler... And GSP is the perfect example of a TKD/Kickboxer and a BJJ fighter.

Answer 4

Yes, GSP is a great wrestler. But if I had to choose between whether his BJJ or his Karate is better, I would say he uses his Karate a little more. GSP doesn't go for subs much, if he gets the takedown (wrestling) he usually goes for the ground and pound instead of working for a sub. DeltaSigChi4 - Karate is useless? GSP uses his Karate in his stand up. And Lyoto Machida? Machida's stance looks like something out of the Karate Kid. His style of counterstriking, of moving and out is something you see a lot in Karate tournaments. Oh, by the way the guy is 14-0 and has statistically taken the least amount of hits of any UFC fighter ever.

Answer 5

How can everything be equal when you are talking about 2 different martial art forms? The guy is right, depends on the athlete, the situation, the rules,etc. If they are equal then it just depends who is better on that particular night, but out of 10 fights they might split, thats just to broad a question to answer and can't be intelligently considered. The ju jitsu guy might win 6 times out of 10, but when he losses he might get KO'ed.

Answer 6

Well, it's not really fair..... Not saying tkd, and kung fu are bad or anything. But I find tkd and kunfu less practical than karate (After comparison, I have both black belt in tkd and karate). Traditional Karate unlike tkd does not focus too much on plainly kicks, it is a well rounded martial art that teaches ground fighting, throws, strikes and joint manipulations. So, I dunno, I probably would bet on karate.

Answer 7

Jujitsu...for the same reason alot of people stated. Once the jujitsu guy gets in close enough (which is inevitable, even between two pure strikers), it's game over. That's the whole point of the art.

Answer 8

since ive been black in it for 2 years i have to say BJJ without a doubt. i can speak from experience and even site the Gracie precedent.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN6PvPCrStI

once the fight is taken to the mat its over for the TKD/Karate/Kung Fu fighter. they train for punches and kicks and its hard to throw a effective roundhouse when youre face if being pressed into the floor.

Answer 9

Whichever one of the fighters that comes with the best strategy to win, The discipline makes no difference. it's all up to the individuals on who's gonna win.

Answer 10

well did you see the fight with world renowned muay thia kick boxer kit cope vs skinny little bjj black belt kenny florian bjj dominated