Any Christians out there get tired of people calling Christmas a "Pagan" holiday?

Question

I look at it this way. If December 25 was known as a pagan holiday, in ancient times, then so be it. Later on in history, the Pope, and other Christian leaders, decided to celebrate Jesus' birthday on that day. If they had picked a different day, no doubt the crybabies out there would be saying that day was a pagan holiday, too
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Over 1 billion people celebrate Christmas around the world on Dec. 25th as it being Christ's birthday. We don't celebrate it as a pagan holiday. We gather with family, and reflect on what The Savior's birth means to us. Also, we reflect on what his death meant, too. It means for our salvation, he was born, and he died! Our eternal lives depended on him, and he paid our debt, IN FULL!

So to all my Christian brothers and sisters, remember that! Christ = Savior, and Mass = lots of family and friends gathering around, celebrating our Christmas gifts that God gave us! The gifts of love, hope, peace and eternal life

Answer 1

It is a Pagan holiday that "Christians" adopted to be one of their own, you need to research a lot of the traditions that are done during the holiday.

For instance:
They tell us that it is the season to be jolly. It is a time of ornaments, red and green decorations, silver bells, holly, mistletoe and colored lights. It is also a time of department store Santas calling out their universal mantra, "Ho ho ho, Merry Christmas." Nearly all of the realm of so-called "Christianity" join in and repeat this same greeting, "Merry Christmas!"

Although we hear these words constantly as they resonate millions of times throughout the land, almost nobody understands what they are really saying. It is the purpose of this tract to take the words, "Merry Christmas" and examine the true meaning and essence of those words.

A true Christian would want to examine everything they say, because Jesus said in Matthew 12:36-37, "But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgement. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." We will now set aside all of the customs, glitter and traditions of Christmas, which were taken from pagan witchcraft and popularized by the Roman Catholic Church, and we will focus on the true meaning of the words, "Merry Christmas!"

The word "Merry" is simple to define. It unquestionably means to be happy, joyful and light-hearted. The word "merry" fits into the ambience of laughter and frivolity. This word "merry" by itself is innocent and innocuous enough, but as we will now see, it becomes heinously blasphemous when used with the word "Christmas."

Here let it be noted that most people think that the word, "Christmas" means "the birth of Christ." By definition, it means "death of Christ", and I will prove it by using the World Book Encyclopedia, the Catholic Encyclopedia, and a book entitled, The Mass In Slow Motion.

If you are an honest, sincere and discerning Christian, please read on; if not, you might as well stop right here. The World Book Encyclopedia defines "Christmas" as follows: "The word Christmas comes from "Cristes Maesse", an early English phrase that means "Mass of Christ." (1) It is interesting to note that the word "Mass", as used by the Roman Catholics, has traditionally been rejected by the so-called Protestants, such as Lutherans, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Pentecostals and so on. The word "Mass" is strictly a Catholic word and thus, so is "Christ-Mass."

It would stand to reason, that since all of these denominations love and embrace "Christ-Mass", that December 25th is the great homecoming day, when all of the Protestants become Catholic for a day. It would seem that all of the so-called "wayward daughters" of the Romish church return to their mother, the scarlet harlot. Thus, all of the so-called Protestant churches could sing to the Pope that popular song "I'll be home for Christmas."

As previously stated, the word "Mass" in religious usage means a "death sacrifice." The impact of this fact is horrifying and shocking; for when the millions of people are saying, "Merry Christmas", they are literally saying "Merry death of Christ!" Furthermore, when the fat man in the red suit laughs boisterously and says, "Ho ho ho, Merry Christmas", he is mocking and laughing at the suffering and bleeding Saviour, who died for our sins. He does this while parents place their little children into his waiting arms to hear his false promises of gifts that he says he will give them. Consider what you are saying when you say "Merry Christmas."

What is so amusing about our Saviour's painful death? What is so funny? Why is Santa laughing? Why are you going along with it? Your words do count and Satan knows it. Yes, the word "Mass" does mean "death sacrifice", and to cement that fact, we will consider the definition of the inventors of the religious application of the word "Mass." I am looking at page 537 of the Catholic Encyclopedia, which says, "In the Christian law, the supreme sacrifice is that of the Mass." It goes on to say, "The supreme act of worship consists essentially in an offering of a worthy victim to God, the offering made by a proper person, as a priest, the destruction of the victim." (2) Please note carefully the word, "victim" of the Mass. The Latin word for victim is "Hostia" from which the word "host" is derived. The Mass, by definition of those who coined the word, is a sacrifice involving a victim. There is no other meaning for the word "Mass" or "Christ-Mass." On page 110 of a book entitled "The Mass In Slow Motion", we find the following words: "It is only with the consecration that the sacrifice of the Mass is achieved. I have represented the Mass to you, more than once, as a kind of ritual dance." (3)

In essence, the Mass is the ceremonial slaying of Jesus Christ over and over again, followed by the eating of his flesh and the drinking of his blood. The Mass is the death sacrifice, and the "Host" is the victim. This is official Roman Catholic doctrine, and "Christmas" is a word that they invented. Again, I ask, what is so merry about the pain, bleeding, suffering and death of Jesus Christ? Satan has done quite a job of getting millions of so-called "Christians" to blaspheme. What a deceiver he is.
Now you know the true meaning of the word "Christmas" or Mass of Christ.

Also something about the Bell Ringers that Stand in front of the stores ringing the bell and saying Merry Christmas:
Pagans used bells to summon demons, cast spells, and communicate with the dead, Christians used them to cast out evil spirits and frighten away storms(storms...aka...people that don't give money!)

Answer 2

I honestly would not mind if "they took it back." All it does for the Christian is too make us take our focus off of Christ. We can say that Christmas is about celebrating the love of Christ by giving gifts from up under the tree when often it is just about the gifts. Often, what I think people get upset about when you talk of changing the name of the Christmas tree to the "holiday tree" is that you are taking the name of Christmas off of it. To those that celebrate Christmas for the birth of christ it is unnerving but it should be no big deal, we should be thankful that God is protecting us and that we still have our religious freedom. When we see a christmas tree in december everyone knows that christmas is near. If it has no decorations we wonder, "is christmas coming this year." Every other part of the year it is just a "evergreen tree." Let the Christian never forget that the Cross and Nativity scenes represent Christ as well. Those are the images that we should be conscientious of. If we see them any other part of the year, to many people the cross means less. Let us not focus too long on this one suject. While I would prefer that all of you are Christians and I pray that one day God may touch all of your hearts, I know that I am no better than any of you, I sin a lot, all that makes me different is that I am a saved sinner. That is what makes the difference in a Christmas tree and a holiday tree. A Christian should not be offended by the tree changing name for it should not make a difference while we celebrate the season. You are right, the Christmas tree has nothing to do with the birth of Christ, let the pagans have their tree. I on the other hand will take the Lord.

Answer 3

Maybe we'd shut up about it if some of the Christians would shut up about "They're taking Christ out of Christmas" or getting upset that Non-Christians celebrate that day in their own way.

And, if you decorate a tree, have mistletoe, the garland around the fireplace (decking the halls), exchanging gifts, then you most certainly are celebrating in a Pagan way. That's exactly what Pagans used to do on that day.

Personally I don't care if you celebrate or how you celebrate. I only respond when it appears someone is being a hypocrite about it. And like I said, there probably wouldn't be too much said about it at all if some wouldn't go around crying about how others are telling the truth about the origins of Christmas.

And your Savior stood on Truth.

Answer 4

They did not just pick Dec 25th as the day to celebrate it. They took mostly ALL of the ceremonial/customs/traditions with the pagan holiday and implemented that into so called christs selected birthday as well.

So your point means nothing. People don't just celebrate Jesus birth on that day. They make a christmas tree, which is an idol to the sun/moon/star gods. The things Santa supposedly does, are an exact copy of the Pagan god Thor, who was a fire elemental, flew threw the sky going down chimmenys to leave good gifts for kids and black peter the devil followed to whip/kidnap bad kids. Etc,etc,etc.

So Christmas IS a pagan celebration, not a coincidental date for where another thing was going on. They adopted all the pagan practices as well.

Answer 5

Ya know what snafu, you're absolutly right Christmas is not a pagan holiday. It is supposed to be a Christian Holy day, Christ---Mass, Christ Death, try opening a book on word origins some time, or a real history book.

Concidering all the questions I see that have to do with "Any Christians out there get tired of people calling Christmas a "Pagan" holiday?"
I'd have to say we know who the crybabies are.

Most of you so called Christians are so ignorant of your own religion you think Jesus founded Christianity and really was born on December 25th. Ok, so over 1 billion people celebrate December 25th as Jesus's birthday, that's over 1 billion people who have it wrong, plain and simple, talking to any Catholic clergy would clear that one up for you

Christ isn't a name, it means anointed, so technically it would be a mass for any anointed one wouldn't it? While we are on the subject of anointing, who anointed Jesus anyway? It wasn't the Hebrews, it sure wasn't Herod. The only anoiting Jesus got was when he was wrapped for burial, just like most well to do people of the time, so there were a whole lot of anointed people around.

So many of you pick and choose what parts of your bible work best for the argument at the time, yet I so rarely see any of you quoting Jesus.

You fundie tight butts act like you own the whole planet, which you don't, you don't even own the whole month of December, yeah, we know, you should right? None of this would even be an issue if you only wanted the one day instead of the six weeks of preening and strutting we who are not Christian have to put up with.

None of this would even be an issue if you only wanted the one day
Most of you people only say you gather to reflect on the message of Jesus, what you are really reflecting on is what did you get, can you get a refund if you don't like it and how much you're going to eat.

You want to honor Jesus? You want to give the gift of love, hope and peace? Volunteer at a homeless shelter on Christmas, instead of plopping down in your comfy chair to sleep off your after dinner stupor.

Answer 6

The day to celebrate it was chosen to coincide with the Roman pagan festival marking the birthday of the unconquered sun. This is what makes it pagan, my friend. Further research on your part would have told you this.
As you said, it is likely the love of family, not love of false religion, that makes you want to celebrate Christmas. However, due to the pagan origins of the holiday, you are still choosing to take part in a celebration that originated with false worship. Do you think God appreciates that?
All of this to the side, it says (in the Bible, "supposedly" where Christmas came from), that "A name is better than good oil, and the day of death than the day of one's being born." (Eccl. 7:1) .. Wouldn't that statement be the other way around if we were supposed to celebrate Jesus' birthday? No where in the Bible does it say you are supposed to. However, it does say we should commemorate his death. "..This means my body, which is to be given in your behalf. Keep doing this in remembrance of me" (Luke 22:19). THIS is the proper time to be reflecting on what his death meant, and what it means for our salvation. You can have lots of family and friends gather around at any other time of the year.

Why wait for Christmas?

Answer 7

I do not care that you celebrate the holiday. i care that you try to act like it is the actual birthday of Christ. and that dec 25 was chosen with absolutely no malicious intent by your Pope Gregory 13.

you say that we would claim a Pagan Holiday on any day that you choose. Pagan Holidays are decided by the Phases of the Moon and the wheel of the year. they are seldom on the same day 2 years in a row. Yule or the Winter Solstice is the shortest day of the year. somehow your church decided to celebrate the birth of a man born in a desert in the fall. by decorating an evergreen tree in the middle of the winter.

Celebrate your holiday, you have the right to. but dont act like you own the day and the season. there were people dancing and singing on these days long before the god of aberham and there will be people dancing and singing on these days long after any of us will be able to remember.


do you decorate your home with the trimmings of evergreen trees? this is a Pagan Custom.

Do you decorate an evergreen tree? this is a Pagan Custom.

do you burn frankensence and mirrh in your church or light candles when worshiping, Pagan customs.

celebrate your day, dance and sing with your family and have a good time, because it is needed in this cold dark time of the year.
but remember that people all over the world will be dancing and singing with you but for many different reasons. there are more religions than Christianity out there, and many of them have been around for much longer. remember where your customs and traditions comr from before you try to claim ownership of them.

Answer 8

No because it is a pagan holidays, jesus never commanded Christians to celebrate his birth. Rather, he told his disciples to memorialize, or remember, his death. (Luke 22:19, 20) Christmas and its customs come from ancient false religions. The same is true of Easter customs, such as the use of eggs and rabbits. The early Christians did not celebrate Christmas or Easter, nor do true Christians today

I hope this helps.

Answer 9

If it makes you feel any better, I'm a Pagan, and *I'm* getting sick of people calling Christmas a Pagan holiday. Like you said, if it falls on/near the same day as something else, so be it. There's valid religious reasons for the holiday, and that's the important thing. Timing, or some of the superficial non-religious trappings (tree, tinsel, etc.) don't particularly matter in regards to the meaning of the holiday.

Answer 10

Y'know something? I do not mind sharing the fun stuff with you all - after all, what you're really supposed to be doing is a Christ's MASS, a day in church.

I know that's not nearly as fun as trees and feasting and caroling and mistletoe and lights and sparklies and presents.

I don't mind sharing that stuff. BUT YOU GUYS WON'T even share with US. No, YOUR holiday should be the ONLY one acknowledged. Everyone has to say "Merry Christmas" or you blow a gasket.

Well, as long as ya'll have that attitude, I'll KEEP reminding you about the truth of the history of this holiday and the others you "borrowed".

If y'all would just be willing to live with 'Happy Holidays", if y'all wouldn't boycott stores that (gasp!) don't have "Christmas" signs all over, if y'all would be more like the guy you CLAIM to follow, I wouldn't be so adamant about reminding you that you're participating in a Pagan celebration.

Most of the time I'm just quietly amused that you folks do this, that you do all these Pagan things while at the same time you say we're of the "devil", but I'm tempted to rethink my tolerance when I read crap like the above "crybabies" comment.

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Tell me something, are you TRYING to destroy any goodwill that we Pagans might feel for Christians? 'Cause you're going about it the right way. I am one of the Pagans here who regularly reports rude cracks about Christianity. I am one of the Pagans who regularly defends Christians when other Pagans I know make fun of you.

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Oh, BTW, to my fellow pagans, here's a little ditty for you (written by a friend and slightly edited by me): I'm feeling radicalized enough to want to share it, at this point.

Watch out, Christian Soldiers,
Marching as to war
Like the Inquisition
Marched on us before...

We know what you're up to;
We are wide awake.
If you had your way we'd all be
burning at the stake.

Watch out Christian soldiers,
If you want a war
You won't have the victory
That you had before.

Answer 11

Nothing against people celebrating Christmas or anything like that from me. However, December 25th WAS a pagen holiday and it is most likely NOT the day Jesus was born. Theres no way to prove Jesus was born that day since the only book that says so is also full of alot of other questionable stuff, but I guess the 25th was convinient back in the day so the Christians could parade around pagen towns saying "WOO HOO WE GET PRESENTS TODAY AND ALL YOU GET TO DO IS PRAY OR SOME CRAP LIKE THAT! YAY!"