Let them have Christmas, as long as they rename it to "the holidays" like they have been trying to for so long.
We will move the day of Jesus' birth to the end of September, where there are no other holidays to interfere with it.
We can still give presents at "the holidays" and put up a "holiday" tree, but the new holiday will ONLY be to celebrate the birth of Jesus. No sales, no presents, no advertisements, no more controversy.
And I KNOW Jesus was probably born in April, but then the holiday to celebrate His birth would be around Easter, and I think we would like to keep those holidays separate.
WHAT DO YOU SAY????
2006-12-14 05:46:33 · 33 answers · asked by i hate hippies but love my Jesus 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Well, I don't know about him being born in April, but I do know that there are so many people against Jesus and christianity right now to where that will never happen!
But if were up to me you would win an award for thinking up a terrific idea like that! I enjoy reading questions like this.
2006-12-14 05:49:47 · answer #1 · answered by redbone 3 · 4⤊ 2⤋
Jesus birth was actually sometime between the beginning of October and the mid to end of November. There is no documentation anywhere in the world that even eludes to the fact that Jesus was born on December 25th, except maybe something, somewhere in the Vatican. The actual year he was born in, which most people do not know, is 2 BCE.
He was 30 years old when he start preaching in 29 C.E. That was the law back then that no one could be a priest or a preacher unless they reached the age of 30. Jesus was 33 - 1/2 years old when he was executed.
The date of the execution was Nissan 14, sometime in April.
You can then figure it out...
Also note that when he was born, the animals were outside, either in the field grazing. December was too cold for the animals to be outside which further provides evidence that Jesus was not born in December.
Lastly, the Pope will not admit it, but it just so happens that Christmas winds up at the same moment as one of those Pagan things, i.e., celebration of the new year when the days are actually starting to get longer. The church adopted Christmas to try and bring the people into the church, tickle their ears as to what they want to hear so as to entice them in..
There is no Biblical reference to Jesus being born any where near December 25th.
Also note, there is a possbility that Jesus did not care much for birthdays as one of his closest companions was beheaded as a birthday gift to someone else...imagine how John the Baptist feels about birthdays. All instances of birthdays mentioned in the Bible are tragedies in one way or another.
2006-12-14 06:00:07 · answer #2 · answered by Paul J 3 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Apparently you didn't know, but the way Christmas shopping moves forward every year it will b4egin at the end of September next year. So its already been done and there will still be a war on it.
Seriously though, I don't understand why everyone has a problem saying Happy Holidays. The idea is not to remove Christmas (and lots of luck trying to remove Christmas since everything else in terms of decorations and sale signs and so on is still very much Christmas related), the idea is to add on Hannukah and Kwanzaa. To include others, not to disclude Christians.
The modern Christians (or rather the most vocal ones--the evangelicals) have this idea if they aren't at the forefront and the only religious group anyone listens to that they don't matter. Which smacks of the dictatorial Pharisee style Jesus warned us against. The idea is to tell others of the good news and if they like it great; but if they don't we shouldn't be trying to get rid of them. We should learn to work together with them and maybe eventually they will see Christianity for what its supposed to be (and not what it has become).
2006-12-14 05:52:55 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋
What's your problem with Christmas? Why is it wrong to celebrate the greatest gift ever, the gift of God's son, through exchanging gifts with our friends and family?
I understand that you are not alone in your frustration with the balance between cultural practices and Christianity at this time of year, but really this is a huge benefit. Because so many different faiths celebrate large holidays at this time of year, this is a chance for people that may not otherwise know Christ to learn about this awesome gift from God through those of us that do celebrate Christmas for what it really is.
Every challenge is an opportunity from God. If you feel challenged by the modern treatment of Christmas, take the opportunity to constructively witness to others at this time of year.
2006-12-14 05:52:24 · answer #4 · answered by blacksockbandit 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Wow, you talk a lot of Jesus and what ways to best celebrate him, yet you hate hippies?! Whatever happened to love thy neighbor? And no one's been trying to rename Christmas "the Holidays". You might find it hard to believe, but there a ton of other religions in the world, and a few of those religions happen to celebrate one of their "holidays" in December. Most Christians are too close-minded to see it as an addition but rather see it as people taking away from Christ. Well, the Christians took away a holiday from the pagans.
Do you watch South Park? Catrman hates hippies too, and even though I love him because he's a fictional character, he's quite evil.
2006-12-14 06:31:23 · answer #5 · answered by Sarah Says 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I lika that! In liu of the absence of presents can we just do good deeds? Like donate time, money, food, clothes... etc? Or can it be a week of extended prayers for worldly matters??
I don't like September though, too much 9-11 crap ruined that month forever.
How's about August or January?
See my problem would still be that we are participating in a pagan holiday.
:::sigh::: Unfortunately, I participate in this pagan holiday but only because my family does and I love them and only get to see them this one time a year.
2006-12-14 05:56:59 · answer #6 · answered by the nothing 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
What are you talking about? There are nearly 190,000,000 Christians in the United States, if you wanted to celebrate a holiday nobody is stopping you. Maybe you aren't asking the right questions, like If this is a holiday made to celebrate the birth of our Savior why do we go shopping and not to church?
2006-12-14 05:49:14 · answer #7 · answered by Sara 5 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Usually verse 9 is taken out of context , neglecting to mention the verses before and after it. Here is the the immediate context, “But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers. 9 “Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. 10 “Do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, Christ.” Jesus is dealing with a much different issue. He is pointing out the hypocrisy of the Pharisees and Teachers of the Law. In verses 6 and 7 which immediately precede the rejection of the titles of honor, Jesus explains in what sense His rejection is meant: "And they love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the Synagogues, and salutations in the market places, and being called rabbi." Here Jesus is commenting on their superiority complexes. They have effectively set God aside and put themselves in His place; thus the comments on being humbled and being exalted. Bible Christians call their ministers "Pastor." Pastor means shepherd. In John 10:14-16 Jesus says, "I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me, as the Father knows me and I know the Father, and I lay down my life for the sheep. And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will heed my voice. So there shall be one flock, one shepherd." If we reason that we cannot call a priest Father because we "have one Father who is in heaven," then can we not also reason that we cannot call a minister Pastor because there is only "one Shepherd?" Isolating and grabbing hold of one scripture verse is risky. It can be misleading or even dangerous. Even an honest and well-intentioned Christian can subconsciously bend a verse to suit his or her own needs. It is vitally important to understand the Bible as God intended. St. Augustine once said, "Not what one scripture says, but what all of Scripture says." We can take it a step further and say, not what Scripture says but what Scripture means.
2016-05-24 03:44:01 · answer #8 · answered by Paula 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Or we could leave things as they are and stand up to the politically correct types and say Christmas. Then we can embrace the symbolism in the way we celebrate Christmas.
If it did get moved, April is the time it should be moved to, since that is the actual time of his birth.
2006-12-14 06:02:28 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋
Sounds like a good idea. But just because heathens celebrate Christmas for the wrong reason doesn't mean you have to compromise worshiping the Lord Jesus everyday of the year.
2006-12-14 05:52:09 · answer #10 · answered by ambernada 2 · 2⤊ 2⤋