Will they still go to heaven? Even if they are incapable of recognizing anything relating to their former faith, worshipping, attending church, praying?
Okay, I know that's an easy one for you, so here's my supplementary questions arising from it:
a) What is the status of their soul while in this state of derangement?
b) What is the status of the soul of someone born with that level of mental detachment who was never able to comprehend Christ in a way that s/he could receive him? Will they go to Heaven? Why or why not?
c) Is it required to have a fully functioning brain to have a soul?
Thanks all, as usual.
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2006-12-14 05:38:37 · 12 answers · asked by Bad Liberal 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Will they go to Heaven?
Well I'm not God but I'm gonna go with yes. Bare in mind, humans don't get to go to heaven until after the coming of Christ. The Heaven of now is for God, Angels and certain appointed Elders only. Our heaven is the new world that will be made for us after the end.
2) I can't tell you the status of their soul but God knows that they are sick and this sick person is not the same as the Christian who loved him and served him before they fell ill.
b) If a person could never comprehend Christ to have a relationship with him then that person to will not have to answer to God in the way we do. If you cannot comprehend free will then you don't fall into the category of having to answer to God on your actions because of your free will. So yes, they too would be saved.
c) No, you don't have to have a fully functioning brain to have a soul. I have known of many people who were impaired mentally who still had a relationship w/ God and prayed.
Hope I helped!
2006-12-14 05:47:41 · answer #1 · answered by the nothing 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
These kinds of questions make me so angry.
WHY would anyone worship a god who would punish someone for getting an illness?
I'm not a Christian anymore (because of stupid things like this) but I'd HOPE that god would be understanding of someone with Alzheimer's not going to church or praying anymore. Just like if someone got shot and had brain damage. Or went into a coma and didn't wake up.
As far as their soul goes, from watching my father, I believe that the soul actually leaves the body for longer and longer periods of time. Where it goes, I don't know, or why it chooses to do that. I suspect you are asking if the soul is "saved"--in my world all souls are good no matter what, even if they make choices we can't understand.
For b), if the parents had the kid baptised into the church, I think it would go to heaven. Although that's probably iffy, and the big reason I hated the church as a child was finding out that unbaptised babies weren't allowed into heaven. I hated that and still do. I was five years old crying saying who would worship a god who would punish an innocent baby? It's not the baby's fault it didn't get baptised before dying, it's the parents' fault. Punish them. And all the people who live in Africa and the North Pole and wherever that never heard of Jesus, they all get punished too, and that's wrong.
For the last question, I'd say no, but I'd also say that babies who are born without functioning brains (the frog-like brain-stem only babies) probably never had a soul in them. They don't (can't) survive. The soul doesn't attach to the unborn baby until very late in the pregnancy.
2006-12-15 00:35:19 · answer #2 · answered by Gevera Bert 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes they will still go to Heaven. When you go before God to be judged you will be judged only on the choices you made between right and wrong. If you are faced with a choice where you do NOT know right from wrong you will not be judged for that. Mormons teach that people with mental retardation/mental issues have been chosen for heaven While in a spritual state before being sent to Earth to obtain a body and are spiritually relieved of their responsibility to make the decisions between right and wrong. Also that people who have not had a chance to accept Christ and his teachings while on Earth will have a Chance to do so in the afterlife. Just because you do not know christ while you are on Earth does not mean you did not know him before or after life on Earth. No a Fully functioning brain is not required to have a soul if this was ture NO-ONE would have a Soul as about 10-20% of the human brain ever functions
2006-12-14 05:51:14 · answer #3 · answered by Keith C 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Hello,
Very interesting questions.
Here are my answers....
If a saved Christian gets Alzheimers and loses grasp of reality... yes, they will go to heaven. They were saved. Their love for Christ is in their soul. Your mental capacity has no bearing on your soul.
a) Every living human has a soul - no matter what their mental capacity. It is still there, living, being who they are.
b) They are someone who is an innocent. In many ways, much more blessed than those of us who have no outward disability. They are loved and blessed by Christ and would go to heaven.
c) No. It is not.
God Bless everyone this CHRISTmas season!
2006-12-14 05:47:56 · answer #4 · answered by ScoobyDoo2006 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God is Just. He will make the right decision. To my mind, justice would be that they do go to heaven. This things you list in the first part have no bearing on Salvation anyway.
The soul is the mind, will, and emotions. I think most people mean spirit when they talk about this. Every person has a spirit. We can't know the status of someone's spirit / soul.
2006-12-14 05:42:51 · answer #5 · answered by BaseballGrrl 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I have known people with Alzheimers and though they may not remember who you are they all have remembered that they were saved by the blood of Jesus on the cross.
However, if they have no rememberance of anything, God knew their heart before they became that way.
If they were saved before, they are saved now.
As to people born in a similar mental state, they were created by God and they have never had the opportunity to deny God, so they will go to heaven.
The Bible leads us to believe that a child is bound for heaven until he comes to the time where he can make the choice on his own, then he will be treated by God according to the choice he has made about Jesus.
BTW: For those who don't want to go to heaven because there may be retards or something there, our body does not go to heaven, and he will be made perfect on the day that he goes to heaven.
2006-12-14 05:59:21 · answer #6 · answered by Theophilus 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If he knew Christ Jesus as his Savior before he lost his reasoning ability, he is still Saved.
If a person is borne without the mental capacity to understand good and evil, or the ability to understand Salvation, he would be as a baby child before God, without sin.
Mental Capacity or the lack of it doesn't prevent a person from having a Soul. That is part of our Humanity.
2006-12-14 05:49:28 · answer #7 · answered by Minister 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
In my honest opinion christians go to hell because of their arrogant and ignorant attitudes towards non christians, and atheists are more likely to go to heaven. Mentally ill or mentally retarded people are considered broken souls, and are remade at thier deaths, if someone was mentally detached and brainwashed into christianity they are remade, and the person that taught them is destroyed, you can have a soul and not be smart, however those people get remade at death.
2006-12-14 05:44:44 · answer #8 · answered by badferret 3 · 0⤊ 2⤋
They go to heaven Bad Liberal.
God is what's called MERCIFUL.
We have a soul no matter what. Even if a child dies in the womb, he/she has a soul.
2006-12-14 05:41:07 · answer #9 · answered by . 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
as far as the verse I'd have to look it up, but my Pastor taught on this,
a child who does not know Jesus as their savior yet
& can't understand the concept of that yet, if they die yes they will go to heaven
as far as the Christian w/ alzheimers I would say yes they will also go to heaven, as long as they knew Jesus as thier savior & repented of their sins before they got
alzheimers .
take care
2006-12-14 05:51:36 · answer #10 · answered by start 6-22-06 summer time Mom 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋