What do you think of these three anti-Christian points...?

Question

1. God is imaginary, he is just one of many gods humans have invented.

2. God, the Bible character, is a very bad example of human decency and shouldn't be followed. (see OT atrocities)

3. Science now gives us answers to our big HOWS and WHYS that are based on evidence, so science is a much better choice to base beliefs on.

I see these three branches as the main reasons to give up Christianity. Can you help polish them, argue against them, or tell me to go to hell again? Thanks!

Answer 1

1. Cant be proven.

2. God is not human

3. Science has no absolutes, no absolutes, no fact. It gives temporary answers, that could change within weeks, or years.Science is ever changing.

I dont want you to go to hell. I wont try to change your mind, if you lay off trying to change mine.

Answer 2

Number 1 is just another assertion. It would be better fleshed out if some of the actual deities like Thor or Zeus were mentioned to show that people consider them ridiculous, but overall it's not a strong point.

Number 2 is often brushed off, saying that this doesn't apply anymore, now that we have the New Testament. What should be considered is that the Old Testament is still the word of God, and therefore the historical events in it should be accurate in the eyes of believers, even if the laws were amended.

Number 3 is a kinda weak argument because it seems to assert that all of the answers have been found. The important part is that if science doesn't know the answer, we admit that and then try to find it. It's a continual search for knowledge rather than just an acceptance of an easy answer.

Answer 3

I don't believe I can improve on point 1. But there is a flaw. If the question is "what is 2+2?" and people give any of the billion possible answers it will remain that there is only 1 correct answer. However, I see the question more like what is "i + i?"

2. The Bible character god is not a bad example of human decency, it is a bad example of a good deity. If you choose to worship a deity at least worship a nice one.

3. It is better to look for something yourself and never find it than it is to just take someone's word for it.

Answer 4

1- "God is imaginary"
Everyone has a 'belief' in something, if you are saying you 'believe' in this then that is your belief and nobody else has the right to say you are wrong unless your belief infringes on theirs somehow. Other before you and many after you will ask this very same question, and it will cause them to review their beliefs.

2- "God is a bad example"
The God you speak of from the Judeo-Christian (also Islamic) point of view can be a caring and blood-thirsty tyrant at the very same time. This god ordered Daniel to slaughter every man, woman, and child in all of the seven surrounding tribes 'just because'. This very same God ordered Daniel to do the unthinkable back then.... to slay the priests as well. Back then, it was OK to kill the men..... somewhat alright to kill the women and children.... but the priests were NEVER touched because they were 'prophets' (messengers of the Gods)

3- "Science answered your questions"
The beautiful part about science is that it is normally a very exact thing. You can ask a question, review the data, and come to a conclusion based upon the facts in evidence. 'Faith' on the other hand is borne of a persons 'belief' that there is something unanswerable/ inexplicable and beyond the science of the day.

Answer 5

Friend, I m not Christian, I m a Muslim. Yet, I would suggest that you should not deviate ur path.

Why?

If you give up Christainaity, you would enter a world of confusion. Let me be straight, its a need of human pcsychology that humans should a set of beliefs and concept for his life (that’s what I think). You need to define some rules for your life that you would follow. For example, there is rule you follow, that is, you sleep at night and work in the day. Why? No one know. Night is primarily designed to sleep and day for the work! You know that. This has been true for many uncountable generations of humans.

Same is the case for many of the facts and beliefs of humans. All the phenomenon need reason for their explaination, and not all the explainations have yet been reached by the science. So, what would you employ to fill the gap? Religion!

What can science answer?

--Science can answer what is water cycle and how it goes and what are the benefits? But who designed to work so? Is there any answer from science?

--Science can answer that DNA is the life of all the lives. It may explain the DNA structure! But who engineered it to be so perfect?

My friend I think its enough reason for the existence of God, you better think science in the existence of God. That’s what I could explain in this short time. More you can ask, I would feel good to help you!

Answer 6

1. God is real. He isn't imaginary just because you can't see him. Just as the wind is real, you can feel it and see its effects.

2. God wasn't the Bible character example of human decency, Jesus was. He was perfect and there are accounts recorded to prove his miracles. His tomb, he was an actual person proven to have walked the earth.

3. Science has still not PROVEN anything and the evidence defies its own laws. IE: The Laws of Thermodynamics.

Giving up Christianity tells me you were once a Christian? Anyway God and the Bible have been included in every aspect of this country since it began. It is slowly being taken out and eliminated. Not by chance but by prophecy. He is the WAY the TRUTH and the LIGHT. Without faith you can not believe and you have that right. I pray you feel the rushing wind of The Lord in your life and pray Gods will be done in your life. I thank you for your arguments it only continues to prove to ME my God exists.

God Bless

Answer 7

First, I would never tell you to go to hell.

1) God is real - just because you have a different opinion does not negate the fact. Can I prove to you that He is real? No, because the proof I have you would be disinclined to accept. Only God can prove His existence to you.

2) Science is not the answer to everything. It is often mistaken. It is a useful tool but should not be looked at as the end all and be all of existence. We have many scientific discoveries, but is the world a better place because science discovered how to split an atom (atomic bombs)?

3) God's character is holy and pure - yes there are things in the Old Testament that are filled with destruction - the these things were brought upon mankind by their own actions - they were living in debauchery and sin.

Answer 8

l. The whole creation-DNA, gravity, atmosphere, the brain etc. did not pull together by chance.
2. Mankind as a whole is a bad example of decency, look at the world ignoring the slaughter of Darfur & Chad because of oil ties
and someone so audacious as to condemn another people while suppressing dissidents in his co.
3. Science has only PROVEN that this universe and beyond could ONLY have been created by design. But how could a non-believer ever accept this?

Answer 9

One and two would take too much space to argue. But three is problematic, at least in the sense that scientific theories significantly change on average every 150 years. I think it is good to say that "science works" or "suits our needs" but in terms of providing a deep epistemology, it isn't adequate without drawing upon metaphysical assumptions. See the fate of Logical Positivism in the first half of the 20th century. In order to seek epistemic certainty through empirical sciences alone, it was forced to give up ethics, aesthetics, and all metaphysics, which would negate the claim two, here. They were theological non-cognitivists, not atheists, as anything metaphysical, incuding God, were unknowable. And ethics was reduced to subjective Emotivism.

Answer 10

"Life is not an eternal search for God: Life is an Eternal Expression of God."
What do you think of this statement? Moreover, the level of evolution that we have achieved so far only shows us how far we can truly reach. Existence is God experiencing God’s self through us and all of life. We are individual, unique, divine, aspects of the whole seeing itself through our different perspectives. This is the essence of life, to experience all things in all ways and to expand to undreamed of levels of awareness and creativity. So my main question is this. Should we not unleash ourselves from our own self-contained ideology and rhetoric and understand the unlimited nature of the universe which is God? This is Life! This is ever evolving evolution! We are how the Universe creates itself, that is how important we are!

Answer 11

I think 1 is unnecessary-I wouldn't waste time with that argument- and 2 is of limited relevance. I would focus mainly on number 3. If you want to challenge Christianity then confront Christians with the findings of modern science that challenge the validity of their doctrines.