Questions about Mary?

Question

I've tried getting these answered and keep getting the run around - I'll just keep it to 2 questions about her sinlessness and assumption to heaven
where did these start, who said it, who witnessed it, when was it written down (it can still be in oral only tradition)
dont tell me b/c the church said so - thats not good enough for me... I've also already heard the Biblical references but tradition has been claimed also and this is what I would like to know more about
so far all I can find is that the sinless state of Mary became doctrine in the Roman Catholic Church in 1854 under Pope Pius IX
please fill in as many details as you know
thanks

Answer 1

According to the Bible, Mary was not sinless. She needed a savior just like the rest of us.
Luke 1:47 and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
There is no record in the Bible of Mary's assumption to heaven. The last time you hear of her is at the foot of the cross when Jesus asks John to take care of her after he is gone. John 19:26-27 When Jesus saw his mother standing there beside the disciples he loved, he said to her, "Woman, he is your son." And he said to this disciple, "She is your mother." And from then on this disciple took her into his home.

I will list some of the Catholic Traditions that have been instituted and the dates. Hope you can find some answers there.

Dr. Boettner then gives us "Some Roman Catholic Heresies And Inventions" and the dates that these alleged "Apostolic" traditions were added to Roman Catholic theology &endash;
* Prayers for the dead, began about A.D. 300
* Making the sign of the cross 300
* Veneration of angels and dead saints, and use of images 375
* The Mass, as a daily celebration 394
* Beginning of the exaltation of Mary, the term "Mother of God" first applied to her by the Council of Ephesus 431
* Priests began to dress differently from laymen 500
* Extreme Unction 526
* The doctrine of Purgatory, established by Gregory I 593
* Latin used in prayer and worship, imposed by Gregory I 600
* Prayer directed to Mary, dead saints and angels, about 600
* Title of pope, or universal bishop, given to Boniface III 607
* Kissing the pope's foot, began with pope Constantine 709
* Worship of the cross, images and relics, authorized in 786
* Holy water, mixed with a pinch of salt and blessed by a priest 850
* Canonization of dead saints, first by pope John XV 995
* The Mass, developed gradually as a sacrifice, attendance made obligatory in the 11th century
* Celibacy of the priesthood, decreed by pope Gregory VII (Hildebrand) 1079
* The Rosary, mechanical praying with beads, invented by Peter the Hermit 1090
* Sale of Indulgences 1190
* Transubstantiation, proclaimed by pope Innocent III 1215
* Auricular Confession of sins to a priest instead of to
God, instituted by pope Innocent III, in Lateran Council 1215
* Bible forbidden to laymen, placed on the Index of Forbidden Books by the Council of Valencia 1229
* Purgatory proclaimed a dogma by Council of Florence 1439
* The doctrine of Seven Sacraments affirmed 1439
* Tradition declared of equal authority with the Bible by the Council of Trent 1545
* Apocryphal books added to the Bible by the Council of Trent 1546
* Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary, proclaimed by pope Pius IX 1854
* Syllabus of Errors, proclaimed by pope Pitts IX, and ratified by the Vatican Council; condemned freedom of religion,conscience, speech, press, and scientific discoveries which are disapproved by the Roman Church; asserted the pope's temporal authority over all civil rulers 1864
* Infallibility of the pope in matters of faith and morals, proclaimed by the Vatican Council 1870
* Public Schools condemned by pope Pius XI 1930
* Assumption of the Virgin Mary (bodily ascension into heaven shortly after her death), proclaimed by pope Pius XII 1950
* Mary proclaimed Mother of the Church, by pope Paul VI 1965

And then Dr. Boettner concludes:
Add to these many others: monks - nuns -monasteries - convents - forty days Lent - holy week - Palm Sunday - Ash Wednesday - All Saints day - Candlemas day - fish day - meat days - incense - holy oil - holy palms - Christopher medals - charms - novenas - and still others.
There you have it - the melancholy evidence of Rome's steadily increasing departure from the simplicity of the Gospel, a departure so radical and far-reaching at the present time (1965) that it has produced a drastically anti-evangelical church. It is clear beyond possibility of doubt that the Roman Catholic religion as now practiced is the outgrowth of centuries of error. Human inventions have been substituted for Bible truth and practice. Intolerance and arrogance have replaced the love and kindness and tolerance that were the distinguishing qualities of the first century Christians, so that now in Roman Catholic countries Protestants and others who are sincere believers in Christ but who do not acknowledge the authority of the pope are subject to all kinds of restrictions and in some cases even forbidden to practice their religion. The distinctive attitude of the present day Roman Church was fixed largely by the Council of Trent (1545-1563), with its more than 100 anathemas or curses pronounced against all who then or in the future would dare to differ with its decisions.

Answer 2

The doctrine of Mary's sinlessness and her "assumption" into Heaven is false. It was created by a Pope Pius IX in the late 1854, after the Catholic Church had been without a Pope for over 50 years since Napoleon's General Berthier captured the Pope in 1798. The Catholic Church used this doctrine to re-assume power. You will not find this doctrine anywhere in Scripture. If you want a more detailed answer, speak to your local Seventh-Day Adventist church pastor.

Answer 3

As far as I know Catholics are the only ones who believe that Mary was sinless and they are the only ones who believe in the assumption of Mary.

Mary was a human being, correct? Yes. 100% human. So she sinned just like all the rest of us do. The angel didn't tell her she was perfect, the angel said God has found favor with you. So basically she was chosen, not sinless.

Gary and B have it right. Mary does not have a higher status than any other human beings. She should not be worshipped or prayed to because she does not have a divine nature. It goes like this: humans->angels->God. The only people who have gone to heaven directly without dying first are Elijah (2 Kings 2:11) and Enoch (Hebrews 11:5).

Catholic dogma has exalted Mary in an irresponsible and idolatrous way. She is declared to have been free from all original sin (the dogma of the Immaculate Conception, first declared in 1854; Catechism 491-492), free from any actual sin during her life (Catechism 411), and perpetually a virgin even after the birth of Jesus (Catechism 499-500).


Mary... was redeemed from the moment of her conception... preserved immune from all stain of original sin.
-Catechism 491
Mary remained free of every personal sin her whole life long.
-Catechism 493


The first Church father to affirm explicitly the assumption of Mary in the West was Gregory of Tours in 590 A.D. But the basis for his teaching was not the tradition of the Church but his acceptance of an apocryphal Gospel known as the "Transitus Beatae Mariae" which we first hear of at the end of the fifth century and which was spuriously attributed to Melito of Sardis.

This is truly an amazing dogma, yet there is no Scriptural proof for it, and even the Roman Catholic writer Eamon Duffy concedes that, ‘there is, clearly, no historical evidence whatsoever for it ...’ (Eamon Duffy, What Catholics Believe About Mary (London: Catholic Truth Society, 1989), p. 17).

Answer 4

maximum of your questions may be responded utilizing the Bible although the concern is how we study and realize it verses the way you study and realize it. yet another concern you've is information there became no NT for rather a lot four hundred yrs and there have been 1000's of distinct letters all claiming to be written by using the Apostles .So it became as a lot because the Bishop of Rome to deliver each of the letters at the same time at a council to make your innovations up that were authenic. you fairly had dozens of distinct ideals in which to deliver at the same time unto the truth. it is the position custom comes into this is importance.John states on the right of his Gospel that the entire international ought to no longer comprise all Jesus stated and performed. in the journey that your properly study in the bible you'll keep in mind Paul caution the persons about listening to any ingredient different than what he and the Apostles educate.So Oral custom became needed from the very beginnig.Now why no longer declaring of Mary then properly their is the likely hood she became nonetheless alive and it really is declared that she lived a toughness. We have self belief in custom that helps the written note it is custom with a Capital T the position as man made traditions are spelled with a decrease case t.Mary is a capital T custom and have you learnt there is not any custom or understanding of a burial position for Mary yet many countless Traditions from all early Church believers that she became assumed body and soul into heaven. the reason i responded your question as I actually have is because i felt you mandatory to understand Catholic custom and why it really is an identical because the Bible. very last remark is why is the Catholic Church nonetheless right here and turning out to be after 2,000 yrs if no longer for the very truth Christ stated he would not enable this is destruction and promised the holy Spirit to practise guide her in all truths in which we've placed our faith in and understand in our hearts the function of our Holy mom because the Holy Spirit has taught us.

Answer 5

THE FACT OF THE ASSUMPTION
Regarding the day, year, and manner of Our Lady's death, nothing certain is known. The earliest known literary reference to the Assumption is found in the Greek work De Obitu S. Dominae. Catholic faith, however, has always derived our knowledge of the mystery from Apostolic Tradition. Epiphanius (d. 403) acknowledged that he knew nothing definite about it (Haer., lxxix, 11). The dates assigned for it vary between three and fifteen years after Christ's Ascension. Two cities claim to be the place of her departure: Jerusalem and Ephesus. Common consent favours Jerusalem, where her tomb is shown; but some argue in favour of Ephesus. The first six centuries did not know of the tomb of Mary at Jerusalem.

The belief in the corporeal assumption of Mary is founded on the apocryphal treatise De Obitu S. Dominae, bearing the name of St. John, which belongs however to the fourth or fifth century. It is also found in the book De Transitu Virginis, falsely ascribed to St. Melito of Sardis, and in a spurious letter attributed to St. Denis the Areopagite. If we consult genuine writings in the East, it is mentioned in the sermons of St. Andrew of Crete, St. John Damascene, St. Modestus of Jerusalem and others. In the West, St. Gregory of Tours (De gloria mart., I, iv) mentions it first. The sermons of St. Jerome and St. Augustine for this feast, however, are spurious. St. John of Damascus (P. G., I, 96) thus formulates the tradition of the Church of Jerusalem:


St. Juvenal, Bishop of Jerusalem, at the Council of Chalcedon (451), made known to the Emperor Marcian and Pulcheria, who wished to possess the body of the Mother of God, that Mary died in the presence of all the Apostles, but that her tomb, when opened, upon the request of St. Thomas, was found empty; wherefrom the Apostles concluded that the body was taken up to heaven.
Today, the belief in the corporeal assumption of Mary is universal in the East and in the West; according to Benedict XIV (De Festis B.V.M., I, viii, 18) it is a probable opinion, which to deny were impious and blasphemous.

[Note: By promulgating the Bull Munificentissimus Deus, 1 November, 1950, Pope Pius XII declared infallibly that the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary was a dogma of the Catholic Faith. Likewise, the Second Vatican Council taught in the Dogmatic Constitution Lumen Gentium that "the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, when her earthly life was over, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things (n. 59)."]

i would have put my hands in the fire not doubting i had read it in the bible. I guess i was wrong the first time, oh well. at least YOU have the right answer

Answer 6

Shalom Servant,

The scriptures are allegoric and have a threefold nature, physical, soul and spirit. And you are only viewing the literal interpretation which becomes the letter that killeth if you continue in this manner. The Mary being portrayed in the scriptures is modeled after a real person but the story being shown is allegoric. Mary being sinless and Jesus being born from a virgin represents how mankind is suppose to make their mind into the good ground(sower and seed parable) in order for the kingdom of God to begin to manifest within them. Turn the scriptures within and begin the inner journey down the narrow path Yeshua spoke about.

Peace

Aza

Answer 7

The whole concept of the ''holiness'' of Mary began in Ephesus. The church could not get the people to convert, as they had too much love for their goddess, Diana. Mary had seldom been mentioned in the Bible. The church decided to make Mary with goddess attributes, and slowly move her in, and Diana out, so people would convert. It work-with time they converted.

Everything about Mary has just grown and skyrocketed into something that she was not at the beginning. It has all been made up by the church, but, I cannot give dates and such.

Answer 8

Mary's assumption into heaven is the creation of Pope Alexander about the year 600. Before that it was just a fairy tale, but the Pope decided that this story is to become fact. So the subservient people were told to believe that it really happened and it's been like that ever since. The subservient people of today believe it.

Answer 9

The story about Mary is in Luke 1 and 2.

Mary must have had complete faith in God in order for Him to find favor with her to bear the Son of God, also known as the Son of man.

What her prayers must have been: Your will be done, God...not mine, but your will. Having no doubts in her heart that He would hear her prayer.

God chooses ordinary people to do extraordinary things. Abraham, a great man of faith and therefore chosen to be the first Jew and the father of many nations.

Moses, to lead His (God's) children out of Egypt...and Mary, to birth Jesus.

When Mary agreed, she knew that what was ahead...would be difficult and she also knew that the living God would make a way...and He did.

Think about that for a moment. In her day, women were stoned if they (villagers and elders) thought they were committing adultery. She was young (14-15), single, pregnant and yet still a virgin.

She was willing to be used for God's glory. She was a willing vessel to further the living God's kingdom. Wow! What a woman of faith!

I appreciate her willingness to do God's will.

Answer 10

BOTH are a tradition made up by the Catholic Church which has NO Scriptural basis.

There is no recorded witnesses for Mary.assumption ...as opposed to the case of Jesus.


Tradition is equivalent to hearsay.

Answer 11

Mary was NOT sinless. She was born into sin just like everyone else. This is a false doctrine, mainly in Catholocism, they hold Mary high. This is not good. All Glory Belongs to Jesus Christ! He is the ONLY one without sin.

Hebrews 4:15
For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet was without sin.

-And that high priest is Jesus Christ!