If Christians are willing to lie in order to win converts, why believe the Biblical writers didn't lie, too?

Question

Christians are willing to tell un-truths just to make make their side seem more plausible. Witness the following question:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Avc9z701sFVPHfUWsRB9L.vsy6IX?qid=20061214055432AAVtmLG&show=7#profile-info-41c69cf513758c6b193ed9d0882e6a40aa

This silly story, now attributed to the President of India, was once attributed to Albert Einstein. In fact it is a fabrication.

Why would we believe today's Christians possess any less integrity than those who wrote the Bible?

Since their entire goal is to win and retain converts, why would you imagine anything in the Bible to be above reproach without a thorough, critical, historical analysis?

Here's the link to SNOPES.COM debunking the tale:

http://www.snopes.com/religion/einstein.asp

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Dewcoons:

You didn't even go look. It's not a video. You make my point. You don't even have the integrity to look at something before commenting on it.

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Answer 1

Quite a silly story indeed! It's always been the case that one can say very little for the integrity of these christians, even during the biblical era. To my mind, no one should feel guilty of doing a critical examination of the Bible or any other book; rather we should allow "reason" to be our oracle, and trust no other, otherwise, we leave ourselves quite open to being imposed upon. I certainly agree with Thomas Paine's assertion in his "The Age of Reason" that the Bible is an imposition on the world!

Answer 2

Christians do not ought to lie about what the Bible says to win converts. authentic converts take position at the same time as individuals are advised the gospel reality and the Holy Spirit is the only which does the replacing. IF a Christian were to lie, then they could in problem-free words produce a pretend convert because the guy fell for an emotional attraction particularly than being somewhat switched over by the Holy Spirit. Ephesians a million:13 In Him you also relied on, once you heard the note of reality, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you've been sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who's the assure of our inheritance till the redemption of the offered possession, to the praise of His glory. 2 Corinthians 5:17 hence, if all people is in Christ, he's a sparkling creation; old issues have handed on to the great beyond; behold, all issues are starting to be new.

Answer 3

My recollection of Christian history is that a prominent Christian forefather
(Clement ? ) indicated that it was allright to lie for the faith.

The lie is not an issue for me. The pertinent wordage for anyone who reads
the bible is "res ipsa loquitor" ( The thing speaks for itself.)

For the faithful the bible speaks the truth. For the rational however most of it speaks in absurdities.

That faithful believe is no problem for me. That there are Christian
faithful who are Dominionists and strive to enforce a , or approve of
biblical law to govern America is a little known problem.

If US legislators do not keep church & state separate what makes anyone think we can't have Islamic Sunni / Shia violence in American
streets.

Answer 4

So, let me see if I get you here:

You're saying that because a story that's been tossed around the Internet a million times improperly attributes it to the president of India, this is sufficient reason for you to conclude that the entire religion of Christianity is wrong.

Well, atheists sometimes lie too, and atheists sometimes commit the same sort of mistakes as the improper attribution of the story.

According to your logic, this is sufficient grounds for discrediting and disbelieve in atheism.

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Answer 5

Hello NH Baritone.. :)

Are what you are saying that no one can make a mistake.. :(

I always embraced the teachings of Buddha..for his teachings were that of Love and forgiveness..and not judging other Faiths..how then if you are following his teachings, you are trying stir up anger towards another faith.. :(

I also am very aware, that the SGI Buddhist quote the Bible in their news letter all the time.. :)

I do not say this in any malice of any form..I say this in Love.. :)

I strife to be perfect..but I also do make mistakes..don't we all..



Merry Christmas..To All..
With Love..In Christ.. :)

Answer 6

I agree with beta_fish. Just because somebody posted that doesn't mean they are lying, they might not have gone to verify their information. And they didn't state that they were trying to "win converts". If somebody wanted to win converts, doing it over a website isn't the best way to go about it.

Answer 7

It seems to me, that while you were struggling with deciding who said it or if anyone said it, you missed the entire point of the article. There is a deeper truth here than authorship.

Answer 8

You seem to be mistaking a lie with a lack of knowledge. The person telling the story appears to believe that it is true. They are not "lying", but may be "mistaken". There is a difference.

For example, you appear to state that the Bible writers did not have integrity. That is, of course, a false statement. But I do not believe it is a "lie" on your part. You are merely misinformed and repeating that innaccurate information.

The person in the video probably should have checked the facts before making the video, just as you should check your facts before posting what you did. Carelessness on the part of both people.

Answer 9

The point of that story was to make us think philosophically and spiritually. Maybe he thought that that was who that conversation was attributed to but the story still serves it's purpose.

Answer 10

It is a matter of a person's response..... Do not judge Christianity as liars for the faith.... Some who claim to be Christians, do not know what to say and will say anything..... now in response to your question, just take what i've just stated and where you see the word "christian", replace with "person".... and you'll understand..... Therefore, some "people" are liars........

Your sister,
Ginger