Did I hear people say that Muslims don't have any homosexuals among them?

Question

Isn't that ever so funny, then that there are people like Afdhere Jama, the founder and editor of Huriyah, a queer Muslim magazine; based in San Francisco?

And what about Faisal Alam - a gay Pakistani American who founded the Al-Fatiha Foundation, an organization dedicated to advancing the cause of gay, lesbian, and transgendered Muslims?

And Parvez Sharma - a gay Muslim film director, living in New York?

And Irshad Manji - a Canadian author, journalist, and a lesbian feminist and critic of Islamic fundamentalism and orthodox interpretations of the Qur'an?

Waheed Alli, aka Baron Alli, of Norbury, London, who at the age of 34 becoming the youngest and the first openly gay peer in Parliament?

Seems rather queer, doesn't it, that they claim Islam doesn't allow gays and there are so many famous ones around?

There are many more, but not quite as famous as these.

While, Yusuf Kabir, a Nigerian, from Lagos who was arrested on July 13, 2005 along with Usman Sani and both are awaiting the sentence of death by stoning.

And Mallam Abdullahi Ibrahim, another Nigerian, who was arrested on charges of homosexuality in November of 2004 who's awaiting the arrest of his partner Michael Ifediora Nwokoma; when both will face death by stoning.

And Mahmoud Asgari,and Ayaz Marhoni were Iranian teenagers from the province of Khuzestan who were hanged in Edalat (Justice) Square in Mashhad, northeast Iran, on July 19, 2005. ????

Why the double standards?

That's what I'm wondering!

One says there are gays among Muslims, others say that there aren't any gays among them and one says I'm "coming out"?? Very intelligent, I must say, and extremely original.

Question is "Why the Death Sentence for being gay?" And, if that's true, then why are these people fighting for the Rights of, please note most carefully, "Muslim Gays"? If they cease to be Muslims the moment they are gay, then why fight for that Right?

Answer 1

It's a fact that there are many very Famous Muslim Gays who even adhere to their Prayers, surprising as it may seem, and those are the ones like Faisal Alam and Irshad Manji who are fighting for more of their kind like them who are "Reformationist Muslims"

Islam is, also facing a lot of "Reform" Movements from within. It's just that a lot of them don't want to admit it.

Baron Alli, however, doesn't fall into that Category, because he's not really Religiously inclined but was just born into it. Given half the chance, I'm sure he'd leave Islam. Anyway, he's nothing to lose, because as a gay, he's already sentenced to death and as an apostate, that's the same sentence.

The severity of Islamic Law is a very long Debate, so pardon me for refraining from venturing there.

The fact being that many, if not most, Muslims from the Middle East have gay episodes is a well known fact. The Law was, actually, made to curb the trend and only succeded in sending it into the closet.

Is it double standards? No. Because like the lady rightly said, they can do that here in our Protection, but there, they are dead, like the others.

And please don't let those like the guy who accused you of being a "closet gay" get to you. Most Muslims are very ill educated, due to many reasons. The only thing that they know is offense is the best form of defense. Some of the better educated Muslims display a sense of class, though.

As to whether we can do anything about the situation with Islams repressive policies, I think the simple answer is "We can't do anything other than offer our sympathy. It's their fight and they need to fight it, not us."

Have a great day.

Answer 2

They are sentenced to death by the Syaria Law in some Muslim countries. Thank goodness though that in Malaysia, a muslim country where I live, they don't kill gays, they just get put away in prison for 20-30 years, which is still bad, but I'm thankful. Anyways, the reason why some muslims says that gays cannot be muslims, the reason why gays are stoned to death, or hanged, just for being gay, are all the same: homophobia. Some muslims from where I'm from don't care if their muslim friend is gay, as long as they don't hit on him. It should be noted that places where homophobia is most serious are where the people are conservative and extremely uneducated, or in other words, ignorant. They're raised in their tiny circle of people, where their media is strictly controlled by their homophobic and conservative government. Many of them do not even know about homosexuality because it is so taboo. So, their government, because of their homophobia, write it into their law so that gays are punished by hanging or worse, stoning. That is why I'd rather US invade Iran. But US doesn't care, because Bush is incharge and he cares too much about the oil in Iraq to think about anything else.

Answer 3

You missed the point, there are homosexual men among all racial and religious groups, including Muslims. but Homosexuals living under Sharia law (law of Islam) are killed if found out.
So all your Muslim homosexuals live in non Muslim countries, where they don't fear the Muslim punishment.

Answer 4

I dont know where you heard that. But from studies i have heard and seen that people that have comments like this usually are in hatred that they themselves are shamefull of coming out.
Make it a christmas gift to yourself and tell your family this holiday when you are sitting there.
Brokeback mountain is out on DVD.

Answer 5

The examples that you are using live either in the US or Canada. If they were to "Come Out" in their own country they might be prosecuted or killed

Answer 6

Who said there are no gays among Muslims? Of course there are.

Answer 7

So what? Why does this bother you so much? Are you queer for muslims.
BAAAAAAHptitst claim that they are Christians and no one gets up set.

Answer 8

Don't forget Yassir Aarafat. He was also a follower of Homohammad.

Answer 9

Homosexuality is not exclusively for the Church, it is there for all to sin/enjoy - religion has nothing to do with it.

Answer 10

wel islam doesnt, but hey wake up if they are gaythey are not muslims, got it..... so what ids the purpose of ur question