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COULD HE CREATE A ROCK THAT EVEN HE CANT PICK UP THEN IT WOULDN'T BE TRUE BECAUSE HE WOULDNT BE ABLE TO PICK IT UP ?

2006-12-13 23:53:11 · 19 answers · asked by JJ B 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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God can create things greater than himself, and then be greater than that.

That is a contradiction. God can do the logical and the illogical. Example: God has counted to infinity, twice.

2006-12-13 23:57:56 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

God cannot create something beyond itself. In other words, God cannot make something true that isn't true. God cannot make 2 + 2 = 5 if the number system goes 1 2 3 4 5. If the number system is reoriented to read 1 2 3 5 4, then 2 + 2 can equal 5, but you haven't changed the answer, merely what you 'name' the answer.

Obviously, 'God' can create things that its creations cannot pick up. Neither you nor I can pick up a mountain (in our current state) and since we are aspects of God, in that sense God cannot pick up the mountain. Its more akin to god being Neo in the Matrix; once you understand the rules, you can do things that seem impossible but arent, but you still can't do things that the Matrix completely doesn't allow.

2006-12-14 00:23:55 · answer #2 · answered by Khnopff71 7 · 0 0

Ye Gods... can God ask a question so many times he gets tired of it?

God cannot do the logically impossible, not because there is a specifiable action of which God is incapable, but because a logical contradiction does not specify any conceivable action at all. God's inability to create a square circle does not indicate a limitation of God's power, but an incoherency in the task proposed. The concept of "a rock so heavy that a being who can lift any rock cannot lift it" is a vacuous concept.

As C.S. Lewis said, "Nonsense does not suddenly acquire sense because the words 'God can' are prefixed to it."

2006-12-13 23:58:02 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Good question.

There are things that are humanly impossible but not divinely impossible.

God cannot do anything that would contradict His nature, such as, cease being God, or be unholy, or do what is logically impossible like square circle or force people freely love Him or make 1+1 to be anything else than 2.

God cannot make a rock so big that He cannot lift it, since created things cannot be greater than the Creator.

2006-12-14 00:25:33 · answer #4 · answered by SeeTheLight 7 · 1 0

Is God really omnipotent?

Can God create a spherical triangle? Can God create a rock so heavy He can't lift it? Can God think of a time when He was not omnipotent? Atheists claim that any answer to any of these questions means that God cannot be omnipotent and, therefore, the God of the Bible does not exist. On the surface, the questions sound convincing. However, we will find that these questions are a form of the kind of question such as "Have you stopped beating your wife?"

The topic of omnipotence (the ability of God to do anything, i.e., God is all-powerful) is frequently cited by atheists as proof that the God of the Bible cannot exist. The claim has been made that if there is anything that God cannot do, then God cannot be omnipotent and, therefore, does not exist.

Is the God of the Bible omnipotent?The word "omnipotent" is never used in the Bible, but has been inferred primarily by one of God's Hebrew titles, "Shadday," which is most often translated "almighty."1 However, the Bible never claims that God can do all things. In fact, the Bible makes a point that there are things that God cannot do. The Bible says that God cannot commit sin.2 God cannot lie.3 Therefore, biblical omnipotence does not mean that God can do all things. God cannot do anything that is contrary to His holy character. However, God can do anything that He determines to do. This is a true meaning of omnipotence - the ability to do anything that one sets out to do.

Specific arguments against omnipotenceSome of the arguments against omnipotence are plain silly and stupid. Can God create a spherical triangle? Saying that omnipotence requires the ability to do logically impossible things is stupid. God cannot turn truth into a lie. If humans define a triangle as a two dimensional object formed by the intersection of three lines, it makes no sense to ask if God could make one that was spherical. When one says that God is all-powerful, one means that God is able to accomplish all that He desires to do. Even an all-powerful being cannot do what is impossible by definition. God can do many things that are humanly impossible. However, there are some things that even an all-powerful being cannot do.

Can God create a rock He cannot lift? Since an all-powerful being will always be able to accomplish whatever He sets out to do, it is impossible for an all-powerful being to fail. The above atheistic argument is arguing that since God is all-powerful He can do anything - even fail. This is like saying that since God is all-powerful He can be not all-powerful. Obviously, this is absurd. An all-powerful being cannot fail. Therefore, God can create a rock of tremendous size, but, since He is all-powerful, He will always be able to lift it. The ability to fail is not a part of omnipotence.

Could God think of a time when He was not omnipotent? If He can't think of it, He isn't omnipotent, but if He does think of it then there was a time when He wasn't omnipotent? This question is quite similar to the rock question above. The answer, of course, is that God can never think of a time when He wasn't omnipotent. God has always been omnipotent. His inability to contradict His divine character does not mean that He isn't omnipotent.

ConclusionThe atheist distorts the biblical definition of omnipotence in order to "prove" that God cannot exist. Contrary to their claims, omnipotence does not include the ability to do things that are, by definition, impossible. Neither does omnipotence include the ability to fail. By defining omnipotence as requiring one to have the ability to fail, atheists have defined omnipotence as being impossible. Of course, an omnipotent God would never fail.

These kinds of arguments are clearly illogical and even silly, although they are commonly used by inexperienced atheists. Most intelligent atheists have dropped these kinds of arguments long ago.

2006-12-14 00:06:49 · answer #5 · answered by williamzo 5 · 1 0

you are so original, man you should have your own show or something. gosh i cannot believe you thought of this question. i am so confused about the answer, can he make a rock to heavy so he can't lift it. and you said he so that means he has a penis which the penis's intent is for sex so there must be a girl god up there for him to have sex with. it just keeps getting deeper and deeper. you are an inspiration to us all. man this is such a great question
"rasp"

2006-12-13 23:59:11 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

YES HE COULD!! He also had no beginning.

However with our combined intellect and severely limited finite minds we will never explain these and other mind bending questions. We also should never tempt God with these unknowables(he laughs and prayerfully blinks in our ignorance)

"I AM the Lord, the God of all flesh-Is there anything too hard for me"? Jeremiah

2006-12-14 00:51:27 · answer #7 · answered by bonsai bobby 7 · 0 0

This is why words like "omniscient" and "omnipotent" are really meaningless. We can't even define what we mean by "intelligent" and "powerful" in any objective way. "Perfect" intelligence and power is even less defined.

BTW, the word "perfect" is also fairly meaningless outside of really strict definitions. I can talk about a perfect circle, because we have a very strict definition of a circle. "Perfect" intelligence is undefined because "intelligence" is can't be defined in any strict sense. However, even intelligence is well defined in comparison to the definition of "god". So it really makes no sense to talk about any god being perfect.

2006-12-14 00:13:46 · answer #8 · answered by nondescript 7 · 0 0

God doesn't pick up rocks.....
He is All Powerful - Omnipotent

the wisdom of man does not even approach the folly of God - The Bible

2006-12-13 23:58:56 · answer #9 · answered by tomkat1528 5 · 0 1

I can't believe people still ask that.

God is a spirit he doesn't have/need muscles, and he can't create something greater or more righteous than he is because he is already infinite. You can't get more than infinite. If you have an infinite amount of grains of sand and add one more, you'll have the exact same number.

2006-12-14 00:02:08 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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