A Question for Atheist.?

Question

OK, I have a questions for Atheist from the Qur'an. Allah (God) directly ask the Atheist in the Qur'an:
"If there is no God; then who created you? Were you created from nothing or are you the creaters of yourself?"

Allah also says in the Qur'an there are only two thing that prevent people from believing after the signs have been made completely clear to them:
1. They want a prestigious status and leadership
2. They want oppression over others

A wise man once said "If I saw a footprint tells me there has been a person walking here, If I see smoke it tells me there's fire there, If I see dropping of a camel I know a camels been there, so are you trying to tell me all of these mountains and these deserts and this world that has been created in a perfect system doesn't have a creator behind it, how can you have that?"

Answer 1

Listen up my friend, I respect your Faith as well as any other Faith; as an Atheist I never tried to convince any believer that their Faith is wrong, since I believe that people are free to believe or not believe in whatever they wish. So, I see no reason why you should try to convince atheists that YOUR is the only undisputable Truth. Believe in Allah, believe in the Quran, just don't come here telling me that I'm an idiot because I'M NOT. I could argue with you, I could prove you how what you're saying makes no sense at all, but I WON'T; and you know why? BECAUSE I DO RESPECT YOUR POINT OF VIEW. So, please, do me a favor, keep your beliefs for yourself, don't try to prove that people not sharing your views are fool, and RESPECT them instead. Thank you. Peace.

Answer 2

If there is a God, then who created him? If everything is created by something, doesn't the same apply to God?

I suspect you're going to tell me that God is eternal and has always existed and didn't need to be created and simply is there. Ok. But can't the same be true about the universe? Is it not possible that the universe always existed and didn't need to be created by anything? How does it make more sense that god is eternal and created everything than that nature is eternal and created everything? At least everyone knows that nature exists, while only some people are convinced about the existence of a god.

If the universe is too amazing to not have a creator behind it, how can God, which is apparently so perfect and amazing and complex, not have a creator behind him?

There are other reasons why people don't believe than those two you mentioned. Personally I don't believe in god because I have no reason to believe he exists. I see other explanations behind all those "signs" and no god has ever proven to me that he exists and there are endless questions that religions just can't answer, so instead of assuming that "God did it", I simply accept that some things are beyond my comprehension and that explanations will probably be found later, just like a lot of explanations have been found for things people previously believed to be supernatural actions of the gods.

Answer 3

Your argument is fallacious because you are comitting the fallacy of composition where you take a property of a part of the whole, and apply it to the whole system. You argue that everything has a cause, so therefore the universe has a cause (i.e. Allah). That is equivalent to saying "Everyone in this chat room has a mother, therefore this chat room has a mother." If Allah created everything, then who created Allah? And if no one did, then why not just cut the last step and say the universe is eternal (which would be supported by the fact that matter and energy can neither be created nor destroyed.) If anyone wants oppression over others it is the Muslim countries run by despots who use America and the Jews as a way to exploit people and stay in power.

Answer 4

Well, if the Qu'ran insists that either:
"1. They want a prestigious status and leadership
2. They want oppression over others"
applies to me,
that gives me superb grounds for not trusting the Qu'ran, for neither are true. I don't want to be a leader, and I don't oppress others. (difficult if you have no power, whether you want to or not.) And if a text claiming to be perfect is wrong just once...

From nothing that had intent seems the more probable at the moment. It's an interesting numbers game, with the rules changing as knowledge increases. (Life need not have started on Earth, perhaps? Clay substrates change the odds for the formation of complex molecules, perhaps? That prions show that non-living things can reproduce may or may not be or relevance?)

The world created in "a perfect system"? Have you looked around? You'd only get to that conclusion by assuming it. Look for the imperfections, and you'll find them easily enough. Ask about genetic defects, perhaps.
Are you old enough to start worrying about your prostate, yet? The human body is full of quirks and awkwardnesses. Imperfection personified.

Answer 5

For some reason I always thought Muslims were above this argument, but okay. Regarding who created me, it was my mother. There is no person who is without one. She carried me for nine months and then spent the next 18 years taking care of me. As for your reasons, I think that it's just propaganda made up to disparage people who are Atheists back in the day when the Koran was being written. I want no prestige and certainly cannot imagine myself being over others or denying them anything. Finally, the so called perfect system is far from perfect. There are plenty of places on Earth that are inhospitable to us long before we came along. There's even evidence that naturally occurring disasters nearly rendered us extinct several times. Need I remind you of the Tsunami in 2004. If Allah is at work in the world, then what justification does he have for that, and all of the deaths that followed? Last I checked Malaysia was a largely Muslim Nation.

Answer 6

issue 1) If something created everything then something created God, therefore your argument is invalid
issue 2)you say, "They want a prestigious leadership and oppression of others?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Ok, lets think about this LOGICALLY!!!
Religion-responsible for the death, murder, and slaughter of MILLIONS since man first walked the Earth. From the Spanish Inquisition to the Crusades, to Jihad, millions have been oppressed and murdered in the name of religion and God. Atheists on the other hand have never oppressed another group, have never lead a crusade or conquered at the point of a sword, damned anyone to hellfire or guilted anyone into not believing.
HMMMMM, AND YOU FEEL THAT ORGANIZED RELIGION OFFERS A BETTER BELIEF STRUCTURE?????....YEA...RIGHT!

Answer 7

Firstly, let’s be clear: You weren’t asking a legitimate question of atheists so much as you were making a rather feeble attempt to insult them. How sincerely would you take me if were to state: “OK, I have a question for the religiously faithful: Why are the religiously faithful so misguided in their beliefs?

Clearly, the question presupposes a desired (not to mention derogatory) answer to the very question it is asking – hence, it’s hardly a question at all.

Secondly, and more importantly, the existence of life on this planet can be explained in purely naturalistic terms alone. We don’t need to invoke the existence of an invisible, omnipotent supernatural being in order to account for life. That most people did so prior to the 19th century was due to a lack of scientific information on the subject of biology. Unfortunately, the prominent religious traditions of the world (e.g., Christianity, Judaism, and Islam) still maintain a vice-like grip on the philosophical viewpoints of the majority of the world’s population, particularly in the United States. Your "question" is evidence of that.

Interestingly, but not surprisingly however, no one in the legitimate scientific community – the very people who know the most about the subject of biology – actually believes that “God” had anything to do with the evolution of life. And yet, you make a veiled attempt to criticize rational people for disregarding religious explanations for life’s origins? Talk about wanting prestige status. For someone who clearly knows very little about the subject about which he is talking – in this case, biological evolution – you certainly seem to have an arrogant view of your mastery of the topic to go so far as to criticize tens of thousands of scientists (most of whom I can safely assure you are atheists or agnostics) who really ARE masters of the subject. How could you possibly claim to know more than they do, when your own reason for doing so is nothing more than blind devotion to a collection of violently superstitious texts written by people who lived 14 centuries ago? I can promise you: 7th century Arabic mystics didn't know anything about gene frequencies or allopatric speciation.

Personally, I don’t know anyone who takes Biblical- or Qur’an-based claims about life’s origins seriously. I’m confident it’s only a matter of time before religious superstitions like creationism are looked upon as an embarrassing peculiarity of the past. Honestly, if "God" really existed, we wouldn't still be arguing about it after all this time. Religion had its chance, and it was a long, if not bloody run. But the kind of world we live in now requires that we do away with such childish things.

By the way, being a "slave" to anyone or anything isn't something you should be proud of.

Answer 8

perfect system?? Ha HA HA That's so funny. Maybe with out humans it would have been perfect and you even added deserts, one of the most inhospitable habitats. I love this contradiction after contradiction. It all cancels itself out into obsolete pointlessness. No offense my friend but come on. Just read what you wrote it's pretty obvious what Allah wants and as for the creator, you argue that everything comes from something. Where did your miraculous creator come from.

Answer 9

It's not a perfect system by any reasonable definition though. You need to start defining creator before you can come to a reasonable answer about this question. I mean, pretty much all creator arguements can be answered by saying "Aliens did it." The question then becomes who made them. But we don't have any information about that. LIKEWISE, if you say god exists, you can question who made god, but once again, we don't have any information about that. So at some point, the arguement becomes largely irrelevant.

Answer 10

God did not ask these questions, since there no such thing.
People, who pretended they hear God, wrote these, and for a purpose.
the reason I don't believe is because I'm reasonable, and therefore reject any superstitious nonsense.
I was not created, and neither was you, we are the product of evolution.
The world is not perfect, it started as a very primitive space rock with minerals in it's core and gas and liquid on the surface, surrounding a medium star, but evolution works on making it more complicated, with better solutions, better forms of life.
some of these life forms became so advanced that they could imagine, and one of the things they imagined was Gods, many of them.
So the truth is that we created god.