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Had they not been witnessed to?

THOMAS PAINE: "Of all of the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny of religion is the worst."

THOMAS JEFFERSON: "Religions are alike -- founded upon fables and mythologies." and "Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man."

JOHN ADAMS: "I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved -- the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!"

JAMES MADISON: "Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not."

BEN FRANKLIN: "Lighthouses are more useful than churches."

2006-12-13 16:12:52 · 24 answers · asked by STFU Dude 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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2006-12-13 16:17:11 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The constitution isn't a religious document. All kinds of mischief occur under systems where the government controls religion or the other way around. The framers knew the evils that occurred under the systems in Europe (mostly state churches), and wanted to prevent that from happening. It is up to the Christians to see that their views are heard and their morals upheld with properly implemented laws. It is not up to gov't bureaucrats to decide what the "proper" views and morals are. That's how we've gotten so far off track in the last two generations. It's also up to the Christians to convince enough of the newcomers to our society that Christian ways and beliefs are worth keeping. And sadly, we have fallen short there, too. The so-called Byzantine Empire -- in fact the Eastern Roman Empire -- had a system of a strong government and a strong church. Each knew its place, and they mostly got along pretty well without one dominating the other. They worked together to create a moral society, though not without problems that happen just because humans are involved. That system lasted more than 1,000 years, from the time of Constantine the Great until the Fall of Constantinople. It might be that it'll never happen again. Blessings. /Orthodox

2016-05-23 23:53:45 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Nowhere in their words did they say that they loved not God. They said they loved not religion and the preachers of Religion. I am very confident that they loved God. It is evident in their works. And I quote, "...one nation, under GOD, indivisible", "In God we trust". I agree with what they said. It was the established clergy that were corrupt. Look into the history books back to the middle ages, look into why there were so many separations of the main, Catholic Church. People saw a problem and tried the best they knew how to fix it. Next time get your facts straight and read/understand the quotes that you are trying to use in your argument. Remember Religion and God and two seperate things.

2006-12-13 18:57:33 · answer #3 · answered by kcyesye 3 · 0 0

They just meant that religion should not control governments and people. They were Deists-they believed in G-d, but, believed that it should be an individual thing for each person---not a collective thing. You can also add George Washington to this list.

But, you have hit upon one thing that Christians need to remember. This was never meant to be a Christian nation, but a nation for each and every person to decide his own feelings about G-d, and his religion.

P.S. All these quotes you have can be found recorded. And, I could add alot more to your list.

2006-12-13 16:19:45 · answer #4 · answered by Shossi 6 · 0 0

There were 55 delegates at the Constitutional Convention. You have identified 5 of the 7 or 8 that were deist, unitarian, or free-thinking. The rest were all members of standard denominations.

2006-12-13 16:17:41 · answer #5 · answered by Aspurtaime Dog Sneeze 6 · 1 0

Very interesting. where can you find this information in verifyable print. I am not asking that to try and disproove you but rather to know for a friend of mine. Our founding fathers clearly inderstood that a seperation of church and state was elemental to establishing a free country that could remain free over time.

2006-12-13 16:19:29 · answer #6 · answered by chuck 3 · 0 0

most of the founfing farthers belived in reason and elightenment and well where deist and some belive it or not where christian, some like thomas jefferson who belived in natures god and not the trinity for got saske he wrote his owne bible?
go figure but if you wan to know more go to
yahoo.com
type founding farters and religion
or go to the libary of congress websight

2006-12-14 03:55:26 · answer #7 · answered by theresa s 1 · 0 0

All those Men you listed were devout Freemasons. A fundalmental pre-requisite to becoming a Freemason is that you not only believe in God...but that you love him. I'm a Freemason and freemasonry is all about loving "God".

2006-12-13 16:17:50 · answer #8 · answered by Bahaus B 3 · 0 0

You are confusing God with religion. Most of them had a belief in and respect for a concept of God, they just didn't like organized religion (with very good reason in my opinion).

2006-12-13 16:17:02 · answer #9 · answered by thewolfskoll 5 · 3 0

If Christian influence on abortion, marriage, prayer in schools, religious expression by government officials in public office, religious symbols in public buildings, tax-supported religiously-based public efforts, etc. is all it takes for secularists to declare the US is becoming a "theocracy"---

WHY then, do these same secularists not admit that America from its very beginning was ALSO a "theocracy" -- when abortion and gay "marriage" would have been unthinkable -- when prayer in schools was more than just a reality, when overt and unabashed religious expression by government officials in public office took place, when religious symbols in public buildings was commonplace, and where state-level governments even used tax dollars to purchase bibles for students?

Can anyone explain the apparent duplicity in that?

2006-12-13 16:15:33 · answer #10 · answered by Daniel 3 · 0 3

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