Writting a paper in theology class, do you think people are born gay?

Question

The reason i don't, one is besause when God created man he said man was very good, not just good.Then he blessed them, blessed in the bible means to hallow or cosecrate pure no defects and that was in the beginning Then in Romans he said he gave them over to there lust and carnal mind Romans 1:1-31 thats why i don't believe it because God would be a liar from the begining. Please give me a your comments and be honest.

Answer 1

The bible is a contradictory mess.

You are right about God saying that all people are Good.

The rest is a bunch of nonsense.

Yes I think that people are born that way.

I didn't used to But I do now.

Love and blessings Don

Answer 2

There are a couple of problems with your question, not the least of which is that you're just asking for confirmation of what you've already decided.

Let's assume you're asking if some biological process can determine sexual preference - for example, is gayness in the genes? There is nothing in religious dogma that can help you with that question. The scriptures are obviously clueless when it comes to DNA & genetic issues.

So your choices are limited by how honest you want to be. If you've already concluded that gayness is an "evil choice" because of your religious presuasion, then you'll have to deny the possibility that genetics are involved. And you'll have to be prepared to construct all manner of rationalizations in order not to accept the genetic argument.

If the evidence becomes too weighty for you, there is a Christian fallback position that says that even if a person is born gay, they shouldn't act on it because it's a sin.

I think that given what we already know in various fields of research, both of these "Christian" positions are suspect at best. They smack of a voluntary blindness, and perhaps inhumanity. Why can't we just admit they are the remnants of primitivism, much like the "miscegination" laws enforced in our own lifetime and now seen as absurd?

Answer 3

Read up on Leary's 8 circuit model of the brain.
It is more likely that a person's sexual orientation is determined by key events that take place during the imprinting of the brain that takes place during early development (infancy). These imprints are what develop a person's personality, and determine how their body will automatically react to different stimuli. For example, a research was done in which chickens were given to their mothers immediately after birth, while another was left with a ping pong ball. Upon maturation, group A of chickens tried to mate with female chickens, while chicken B was humping a pingpong ball. And I'm not making this up.

EDIT: TO THE AUTHOR
After rereading the entire question, this contradiction popped up.
If God created man without defect, explain physical birth defects and things such as Downs syndrome, schizophrenia, etc.?
Would this not be included in those defects from which man was created free?

Answer 4

Write what you want; I am sure you will.

But know how much you are falling into the Religious Empire's reverse chicken trap.

"V’et zachar lo tishkav mishk’vey eeshah toeyvah hee."

(Leviticus 18:22)

This phrase originally meant that God was not condemning homosexuality, he was condemning disharmony.


Religious Empires are the ones who twisted the original verse and the original idiomatic expression and consequently the original intent of the above famous verse.

In short, being born left-handed, or being born homosexual is not a defect, it is simply different than the norm.

Now, what about your race, should we consider that a defect?

Can you trace your blood line back to Adam and Eve?

Answer 5

"Gay" is a social/political term. For this question, I think it would be better to use the biological term "homosexual." Are some people born with a biological attraction to the same sex, as most people have to the opposite sex?
Are some people born with disabilities? Illnesses? Deformities? Unusual types of skin and hair?
Why not homosexuality?
I am not saying that they are; I think this question is unresolved, although I also think evidence suggests it.
Even if you think this is so, it does not apply to all gay people.
Further, it does not address the question: how should this person live? Should he live celibate, or try to be attracted to women, or marry a man? This is a difficulty.

Answer 6

It depends on what you mean -- are people born alcoholics? People might be born with a particular weakiness (like a tendency toward some type of additiction that other people don't have), but I also believe that it takes an act of the will to either act on the impulse or not. If one feeds his additictions, then it will get worse. At some point, it is probably no longer a choice, since the desire has become so strong that it overrides any rational thought.

Answer 7

Simon LeVay, a neuroscientist, studied the brains from 41 corpses, including 6 women, 19 homosexual men, and 16 men presumed to be heterosexual. A small area of the brain, the INAH-3, was similar in size in women and homosexual men, but larger in heterosexual men. He suggested that this might be evidence for an actual structural difference in the brains of gay men. There are, however, numerous problems with this study:
The points on the graph represent the size of INAH-3 in the brains from corpses of 6 women (F), 16 men (M; presumably heterosexual) and 19 homosexual men (HM)
In comparing the size of the INAH-3, he presumed that the 16 "heterosexual" men were, in fact, heterosexual. Only two of them had denied homosexual activities; for the rest, sexual histories were not available. Thus, he was actually comparing homosexual men with men of unknown sexual orientation! This, obviously, is a major flaw in scientific method.
The volume of the INAH-3 may not be a relevant measure:
Scientists disagree on the most accurate way to measure the INAH-3. LeVay measured the volume; other scientists claim it is more accurate to measure the actual number of neurons. Clarifying the potential problem, some have suggested that using a volume method to project impact on sexual orientation may be like trying to determine intelligence by a person's hat size.
When different laboratories have measured the four areas of the INAH (including INAH-3), their results conflicted. For example, Swaab and Fliers (1985) found that the INAH-1 was larger in men, while LeVay (1991) found no difference between men and women. Allen et al (1989) found the INAH-2 to be larger in men than in some women, while LeVay (1991) again found no difference. See Byne (1994), page 52.
The above problems aside, even the data from LeVay's study did not prove that anyone was born gay. This is the case for at least two reasons:
Both groups of men covered essentially the same range of sizes. One could be gay (HM) with a small INAH-3 or with a large one. One could also be in the "heterosexual" category (M) with either a small or large INAH-3. Clearly, these men were not held to a sexual orientation by their INAH-3 biology! As the data shows, the INAH-3 size of three of the homosexual men puts them clearly in the "heterosexual" category (with one having the second largest INAH-3!). If all you know about any of LeVay's subjects is INAH-3 size, you could not accurately predict whether they are heterosexual or homosexual, male or female.
A study that showed a clear difference in INAH-3 sizes, would still leave another question unanswered: are men gay because of a smaller INAH-3, or was their INAH-3 smaller because of their homosexual actions, thoughts, and/or feelings? It is known that the brain does change in response to changes in behaviour and environment. For example, Newsweek reported that "in people reading Braille after becoming blind, the area of the brain controlling the reading finger grew larger." As well, in male songbirds, "the brain area associated with mating is not only larger than in the female, but varies according to the season" (Newsweek, Feb. 24, 1992, p. 50).

Answer 8

It's more complex than just being born this or that. It's a matter of orientation. No gay person has ever gone through some kind of rational excercise just to get up, dust off his or her pants, declaring: "Hey, everybody! Guess what? I'm gay?" No gay person never wake up saying: "Today I'm gonna be straigth."
Sure, the Bible speaks of a heterosexual human being, male and female, blessed, consecrated and all. And this leads me to think that given such polarity male/female there's no room for one and only option. I'm happy of being a heterosexual, but my sexual orientation doesn't exhaust the possibilities of being a human.

Answer 9

Yes. First, I don't take the Bible as true at all. Second, how would you explain a 5 year old having a physical attraction of a romantic nature towards Bazooka from G.I. Joe (He was the one who wore the sports jersey that, looking back, I think had the number 69 on it...)?

At five years old, I was hardly old enough to be thinking sexually, so what about it made me wish to be in his arms and feel him desire me?

When I was in third grade, 9 years old, I was already blowing kisses at another boy in my class, Matt, who called me a gay-wad for it ... and was proud of the accusation.

How do you explain homosexual and homoerotic behaviors and desires in children of such a young age?

Answer 10

On Sunday, Paul Barnes, founding pastor of the 2,100-member Grace Chapel in this Denver suburb, told his evangelical congregation in a videotaped message he had had sexual relations with other men and was stepping down.
Dave Palmer, associate pastor of Grace Chapel, told The Denver Post that Barnes confessed to him after the church received a call last week.
The church board of elders accepted Barnes' resignation on Thursday.
On the videotape, which The Post was allowed to view, Barnes told church members: "I have struggled with homosexuality since I was a 5-year-old boy. ... I can't tell you the number of nights I have cried myself to sleep, begging God to take this away."
Do you really think he chose to be gay at five years old. How old were you when you chose to be gay. Because of religious bigotry He and his whole family suffers. If it wasn't for this bigotry he would never have married.
Tammi Dee

Answer 11

Well. I was gonna send you to Romans 1, but you are already there.
The Bible does not say if a person is born gay or not. It really does not matter though-because you can be born again. All that huff about being born gay is just a cop out. Its just their way to say "its not my fault". No one wants ot accept responsibility for themselves, they just want to blame someone or something (God). To say that they were born that way puts the blame on God. In their mind if it is God's fault-then how could He punish them for what He did-its just a cop out.