Yes. So you think Jesus can only prove he was/is the Son of God through mircles? What about all the prophecies? The Bible is proof rather you accept it or not. But I will humor you anyway.
Josephus was a very important Jewish historian of the first century. He was a priest, a pharisee, and somewhat egotistical. Most importantly he was NOT A CHRISTIAN. Look into his books "The Antiquities" and the "Testimonium Flavianum".
The Testimonim Flavianum says this," About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he was one who wrought surprising feats and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly. He won over many Jews and many of the Greeks. HE WAS THE CHRIST. When Pilate, upon hearing him accused by men of the highest standing among us, had condemned him to be crucified, those who had in the first place come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared to them restored to life, for the prophets of God had prophesied these and countless other marvelous things about him. And the tribe of Christians, so called after him, has still to this day not disappeared."
2006-12-13 07:29:16
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answered by cnm 4
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There is no proof that Jesus was the son of God, however, there is evidence that would lead someone to this conclusion. This won't be exhaustive, but I'll list a couple:
1) The Roman historian Josephus recorded that it was the belief of those in Jerusalem, after Jesus had supposedly been cruxified, that he was alive and present in Jerusalem. This is not proof, because it is possible that Jesus was not completely killed by the Romans at the cruxifiction (this is very unlikely though). Also it is possible that there was a Jesus look-a-like around town.
2) According to history, 11 of the 12 apostles of Jesus died a martyr's death (one was attempted to be killed multiple times but somehow survived). These apostles were the men that accompanied Jesus on a daily basis during his ministry, a period of 3 years. If anyone would have had the goods on Jesus, and known if he was a fake, it would have been these guys. According to history, each of the 11 was given an opportunity to recant and save his life, prior to execution. None chose to do so. Essentially, these men deemed horrific deaths to be a better option than denying that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of the Almighty God. Once again, this is not proof, but is logically persuasive.
2006-12-13 07:56:53
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answered by gg_oz_wm 2
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Contraire about Historians. The most well respected historian of the time, "Josephus", an atheist, witnessed and wrote about Jesus. A lot about Jesus. You might be shocked about what he said about Jesus' activities after the crucifixion.
Well, I guess we shouldn't call Josephus an athiest. He did worship one thing. He worshipped History. He was truthful to a fault, (I seem to recall he was executed for telling the truth about a Roman Emperor). Recall some of your History Professors, who were nuts about their career and the safeguarding of accurate reporting.
Oh, well, personally, I do not "believe" because of science, or faith, or religious rituals. I simply believe because the Holy Spirit has witnessed to me physically, mentally, and emotionally that Everything Jesus has said in the Bible is true, whether I can understand it or not. Blind Faith? No way. - You might never ask God to send you the Holy Spirit, but don't you wonder why so many people still call themselves "Christians" even though they probably know that their religious leaders are full of "White Cotton". White Cotton? Well isn't that a better term than "BS".
2006-12-13 07:40:10
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answered by MrsOcultyThomas 6
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I'll try to be Non-Bias:
(You want a non bias answer? Good luck with that from most people.)
There is no proof and it is extremely unlikely that any of the writings about Jesus was by anyone who actually met him.
There is no proof, and back in Jesus’ day, profits and messiahs were a dime a dozen. I would be willing to bet that some of the stories in the bible may get a little mixed up with some of the other profits. I am not one of those that debate whether he existed, but I will say that you can’t even get an accurate biography of someone who lived 20 years ago, let alone 2000 years ago. You would have to believe in the divinity of the Bible and/or the Quran to take those scriptures very seriously.
2006-12-13 07:35:35
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answered by A 6
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The following Article "Church of the Ark" shows how important Jesus really is. The old church found may not prove Jesus was the son of God, however, it shows that Jesus did exist. * Perilous Times - Mon, Dec 4 2006 "Church of the Ark" found on West Bank* By Harry de Quetteville in Shiloh "He said the site contained an extremely unusual inscription which referred to itself, Shiloh, by name.... The site, emerging from the soil in a few acres in the hills of the Israeli occupied West Bank, is richly decorated with brightly coloured mosaics and inscriptions referring to Jesus Christ... According to the Old Testament, the Ark of the Covenant, which contained the two tablets inscribed with the Ten Commandments, was kept by the Israelites at Shiloh for several hundred years.... It was eventually moved to the Holy of Holies in the Jerusalem temple that the Bible says was built by King Solomon around 1000 BC. When the temple was sacked by the Babylonians 400 years later, the Ark was lost, sparking theories about whether it had been hidden or destroyed." Please see my question "Do you think the birth of the Red Heifers born in the 1990’s is proof that the Messiah will be coming soon?" There is an important message for everyone.
2006-12-13 07:34:23
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answered by Soul saviour 4
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Do you honestly think that the Pharisees, or anybody opposed to Christianity, wanted to make it known that Jesus did indeed rise from the dead? Or record His miracles? Of course anyone who is going to actually record these things as truth is going be a Christian, correct? Secular historians might acknowledge the existence of Christ Jesus, they might acknowledge that some call Him the Son of God, but do you think they would start proving it by recording supernatural miracles? For example, look at a historian who happened to be an atheist. Do you think that he would record, as fact, that not only was there a God, but that He sent His Son to save the world? As such, being a Christian, I will quote the Bible, as it is the best source of record for Jesus' miracles. Though ultimately inspired by God, physicians, fisherman, and many others were used as instruments to write this book we know as the Bible--God's Word.
Luke 22:70
They all asked, "Are you then the Son of God?" He [Jesus Christ] replied, "You are right in saying I am."
Matthew 14:33
Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, "Truly you are the Son of God."
Matthew 8:29
"What do you want with us, Son of God?" they shouted. "Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?"
[note that even demons admitted that Jesus Christ was the Son of God]
Mark 3:11
Whenever the evil spirits saw him, they fell down before him and cried out, "You are the Son of God."
Luke 4:41
Moreover, demons came out of many people, shouting, "You are the Son of God!" But he rebuked them and would not allow them to speak, because they knew he was the Christ.
John 20:31
But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.
God bless you!
2006-12-13 07:36:58
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answered by eefen 4
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Faith is not proof. Faith is the opposite of intelligence.
There is no independent proof that even one miracle by any god or supposed son of god was ever performed anywhere in the world.
Notice how whenever you ask for proof, all you get is "I know it in my heart" or some such nonsense. A photo, a video, physical evidence all would be acceptable. Yet no one can ever point you to any real evidence whatsoever. No proof = no miracles = no god.
2006-12-13 07:36:17
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answered by atheist jesus 4
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Of course there is no proof. It wouldn't be faith if there was proof.
There are a lot of people today that believe some of these evangelicals perform miracles too...if we can get 1000's of people to believe in this day and age of cameras, technology and science, imagine how easy it was to convince people 2000 years ago.
2006-12-13 07:31:39
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answered by Captain Jack 6
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"First off the bible or qu'ran (koran (sorry if either of those are spelled wrong)) doesn't count for this question, and neither does faith"
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The Bible does. Keep in mind the Bible isn't only a religious text, it's also a source of (yes, proven) history. Paul and Luke interviewed many, many people, including Mary, Mary Magdalene, the disciples, witnesses of Jesus' miracles, and even the Pharisees ( i could be wrong there). Faith does too. If you believe it, it's true. Jesus' resurection proved to mankind that he was the Son of God. No one witness the resurection by Jesus apeared to many people (over 500) between the time he was resurected and ascended into heaven (which was witnessed by Mary Magdalene, Mary, and the disciples).
I just did a huge study on it.
Non believers don't have the assurance that he is God that believers do, because God isn't dwelling inside of them!
There will always be one answer to the question, depending on your belief in it. And the truth is, Jesus was God, the savior of man.
2006-12-13 07:28:57
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answered by Doug 5
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I think the deaths of the apostles are a very good evidence to who Jesus was.
Peter was crucified upside down
James the son of Zebedee was executed by Herod Agrippa I
Andrew as crucified
Thomas was killed with a lance
Thaddeus was stoned and had his brains dashed out with a fuller's cllub.
Mark (though not an apostle) was drawn and quartered (which means he was pulled in 4 different directions, by 4 horses, while he was still alive).
All of these men at least claimed to have seen what Jesus did, and were executed for telling about it. They suffered excruciatingly painful deaths over what they saw, but they didn't have to... All they had to do was admit they were lying. But they didn't. Why is that? They must have truly believed that they saw what they claim to have seen.
2006-12-13 07:33:12
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answered by Chris C 3
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