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I always thought God and Jesus were two different being's. A group of us got on the subject of God and Jesus and some were saying God and Jesus, are the same being, which confuses me because in the movie, "Passion of the Christ, when Jesus was nailed to the cross, he yelled out, "Father why have you forsaken me", if they are the same being, why would he yell out to himself? Please help me to have a better understanding of this, I always pray to God, in Jesus's. Thank you.

2006-12-12 15:49:29 · 39 answers · asked by A_WWE_FAN_4LYFE 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Jesus was with God for the creation of the earth. He and the Father are Gods together. If a human man has a son, the son is genetically the same as the father. So it is with the Father and son of God.
Then Jesus agreed to become human and pay the price for our sins. He was the final sacrifice that atoned for sin. The bible tells us that for the task of living as a human he was made a little lower than the angels.

Hebrews 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.

As a human he took on the immortal nature of man. He had the ability to sin if He chose. Thank goodness He did not. While on the cross Jesus felt the heavy burden of mankinds sins and rebellion against God. As His life was slipping away and He was taking on our sins, He felt the seperation that sin places between God and man. It was the first time He felt disconnected from His father. He truly felt the consequences of sin even though He had not sinned himself. That is why He cried out to His Father

Matthew 27:46
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Jesus was a God made to be a human to carry out a very special task, the salvation of mankind...

2006-12-12 16:06:38 · answer #1 · answered by mindbender - seeker of truth 5 · 0 1

Traditional Christian belief is that there is one God, in three 'Persons' - Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

At the appropriate time (ever heard of "Christmas"?), the Son was born into the world as a human being - Jesus. While on Earth He was limited in His powers and dependent on the Father and the Holy Spirit (but, somehow, still remained God as well).

When, in the Agony on the Cross, He felt the weight of the world's Sin fall on His - human - body and spirit, he called out words from Psalm 22:1, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" - the whole Psalm through to about v 20 being prophetic of His sufferings. (Not, as you put, "Father, why have you forsaken me?") He felt as if He were totally separated from the Father by the oppression of all accumulated sin from Adam till whenever Judgment Day comes.

Jesus = the Son = the Word = the Redeemer = God.
Father = Creator = God
Spirit = the Comforter = the Sustainer = God
But there is only one God.

2006-12-12 16:04:42 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Well, there was some debate on that before the Council of Nicaea, a meeting convened by the pagan Emperor Constantine, to bring order to the Empire. Constantine, being the pagan spiritual leader that also had a trinity similar to the Hindu and Egyptians, wanted the Christians to get on board with the trinity idea so it would be more consistent with current beliefs and be more palatable to the rabble.
Though the trinity idea was confusing, irrational, and illogical, with a little arm twisting by Constantine, the opposition was convinced or killed and the Holy Trinity became gospel. Other beliefs became heresy and were persecuted.
SO, Jesus is God and God is Jesus, both having been around for ever and ever along with the Holy Spirit. All of whom collectively humped Mary, the virgin and gave birth to themselves, wandered in the wilderness and let themselves be tempted, then told themselves that they needed to be crucified, dead and buried and then they rose from the dead but were not really dead because they cannot die and went to heaven to sit on the right hand side of themselves. They will come again and it will be no more mister nice guys, they will ride three horses and hack and burn and kill, kill, kill the non believers and burn their asses in hell forever because they are a loving gods. amen.

2006-12-12 15:59:42 · answer #3 · answered by valcus43 6 · 0 0

I'm in no ways a religious person but didn't God make Mary have an immaculate conception that ended up being Jesus? So that would make God Jesus' dad? So they wouldn't be the same person. I've heard of people saying that God and Jesus are the same person also. I think the way you always thought that they are separate beings is right.

2006-12-12 16:04:51 · answer #4 · answered by sydney77 6 · 1 0

Your conscience will be able to tell you why the Almighty had named the Holy Quran , the final Holy Book. If the previous one was already perfect, did God need to descend the Final? I have no intention whatsoever to spread religion but I am here to tell you the truth and facts. Jesus (PBUH) is the chosen prophet, a human just like you and me, his heeling miracles was just the divine power of the God delivered through him. I wasjust wondering why Christianity still insists that Jesus is the son of God or even declared him as the God. It is a great sin making comparison to the God, in which God will never forgive. The truth is Jesus(PBUH) is a human , he isn't the son of God nor God. He is just a prophet.
(www.quranonline.net 112 Al Ikhlas 1-4 )

2006-12-12 16:24:46 · answer #5 · answered by S.K. Chan46 3 · 0 0

No! God is Jehovah, and Jesus is Michael. Besides in 2 Cor 11:31; Eph 1:3; 1Per 1:3, it says that God is the God and Father of Jesus Christ. Mal 2:10; Mark 12:32; Rom 3:30; 1 Cor 8:6; Eph 4:6; 1 Tim 2:5: James 2:19, all tell us that there is but ONE God! Actually He shouted "My God, My God, why hath thou forsaken me?" Mat 27:46; Mark 15:34, and in John 20:17 Jesus said to Marry "...Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father and to my God, and your God." With this preponderance of evidence it is clear to any thinking person that Jesus has a God, and that Jesus is not His own God, nor is He The God Almighty..

2006-12-12 16:13:35 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

God and Christ are NOT the same! This is a fallacy that started back in the time of Constantine. Christ and God are referred to as "one" meaning one in purpose and power. It's like a man and woman being married and becoming "one" - NOT literally, but a unit working together. Heavenly Father is the Father, Jesus Christ is the Son, and the Holy Spirit is another member of the godhead that works with them. God and Christ each have a perfected body, but the Holy Spirit works without a body due to his special calling. Belief in the trinity is widespread, but was a theory created by and voted upon by a group of men in Nicea, under pressure from Constantine, ages ago. If you read the Nicene Creed, it makes no sense at all and is totally worthless and ridiculous. Go with your heart and brain, and not the silly adopted theories of long ago.

2006-12-12 15:57:11 · answer #7 · answered by Rainfog 5 · 1 1

Yes the three are one. Take a look at John 1: 1 and then look at verse 14. There are other verses that support the Trinity, Father Son and Holy Spirit, keep up the praying in Jesus name!!

2006-12-12 16:00:06 · answer #8 · answered by Steiner 6 · 0 0

A hard question, I was always confused about it until someone told it to me like this. Think of the Trinity (God, Jesus, Holy Spirit.) Think of it like an egg, there is the Shell, the white, and the yoke. All different, but all the same. God and Jesus, and the Holy spirit are one in the same, but at the same time they aren't. Its hard to understand I know, but they are like an egg, think of God as the shell, totally away from the yoke, but at the same time they are the same. And then there is the white, think of it as the holy spirit. Next to the shell, and the Yoke, but not mixed with either. Finally, remember the yoke. think of the Yoke as Jesus. he's in the middle, and he is the valuable part, but without the shell he wouldn't be there. Its hard to grasp, and I still struggle with it. And it will be for you to decide if I am right. God bless

2006-12-12 15:58:45 · answer #9 · answered by Kat 3 · 2 0

This is a very touchy subject. Many Catholics believe God and Jesus are the same person... I don't mean to offend anybody but I personally believe this is not true. God and Jesus are two different people. But only you can decide for yourself... if you want to know, the only sure way is to pray to God and ask him. It might take some time but you'll get a gut feeling and you'll know for sure. You could always do some bible reading, or instead of just asking your friends (they are probably not the most reliable resource) then call a trusted religious leader... I don't know what religion you are, but if I have problems like this I can't answer myself, the first step is to pray and the second step would be to call my bishop. Good luck, you're a noble person to try to find out on your own instead of just listening to the crowd, and I hope you find what you're looking for! ;) god bless you!

2006-12-12 15:55:09 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

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