My Boyfriend is Mormon is there any downloadable proof that I can show him why I don't believe what he does

Question

Ive been talking to the missionarys and it still sounds like a cult. Im going to accept him no matter what but he does want a temple marraige. Is there a complied report mabey from an Exmormon that I could use with my research to just kinda show my ideas to him. Im Methodist but its not an issue for me what religion he is but I know its important to him.

I do need real answer not ones just to get points

The bible is used with the book of mormon.
Im not trying to change him, I just want him to understand me like im trying to understand him.

Answer 1

I've been studying mormonism for years, having been in utah for the past 4 years. I am a Christian Minister too.

Do your own homework, but let me point out a few of the many key differences between Christian Theology and mormonism.

Christian - belief in Trinity

Mormonism - belief in the heavenly father who only rules this planet, belief in Jesus as the "savior" and "older brother" who pays the prices for thier sins "after all they can do" and the Holy spirit is more uncertain - but not god. Ultimately polytheistic.

Christian - Jesus is the LORD (Yahweh of the OT). We are saved by the grace of God through Faith in Jesus Christ - no works, no man-made church approval needed.

Mormonism - Jesus shows that man can become god through works. He is the savior because he atones for some of our sins, but not all. Jesus is another spirit child of the heavenly father. Satan, by the way, is portrayed as his spiritual brother who had a different plan for salvation and those who followed satan were cursed with dark skin (blacks/indians). I am not making this up. As for judgement, there are three levels of heaven, the top level for those married in the temple and have offspring, the second for backslidden mormons and maybe christians, the third level is still nice and that's where everyone else goes. There is really no hell. All salvation comes through their church.

Christian - Bible is True

Mormon - Bible is true ONLY IF IT IS CORRECTLY TRANSLATED AND INTERPRETED BY THEIR CHURCH LEADERSHIP. And, because it is believed to be full of errors, in practice it is widely ignored. They would rather study the Book of Mormon, The Doctrines and Covenants or the Pearl of Great Price. Joseph Smith tried to re-write the Bible, but never finished. Another Mormon offshoot group has the rights to that document and I found a copy myself. Joseph started by rewriting key scripture which make it clear the diety of Christ (John chapter 1) and confirm the oneness of God (Deut 6:4)

Please understand that mormons are generally kind, loving people who are just honestly deceived. They don't know the real Jesus. Pray for them and love on them, just like you would for anybody.

Ask about section 132 of the Doctrines and Covenants which commands polygamous marraige in the temples. It has never been rescinded by the church and will likely return when polygamy becomes acceptable. Would you be ready be in a polygamous arrangement if in 10-20 years that becomes lawful? http://scriptures.lds.org/dc/132

Mormonism (also repackaged as lds, or "latter day saints) is a radical departure from Christianity, although they claim now to be "Christians". Following moral teaching of Christ doesn't make you a Christian. Even nice atheists would be Christians by that definition.

If it is important for you to know that the Creator of the universe, revealed as God the Father, God the Son and the Holy Spirit (three "persons" but definitely only one God), is the LORD and He alone deserves our worship, then you will find mormonism totally incompatible with your faith and your marraige will have incredible difficulties.

Ask about the LDS Hymn "Praise to the Man" which is sung about Joseph Smith. I think you would have an issue with that.

A TV show that is hitting Salt Lake City this year is "Heart of the Matter" by a gentlemen who spent 40 years as mormon before he found Christ as his LORD. Great show and it can be downloaded from the bornagainmormon.com website, or through itunes. You can download notes to his shows on specific topics. It's all done in love. This is not "anti-mormon" literature (which they are trained to avoid). This group has a $10 book which is can be had for free if you can't afford it. This is a good resource. The show and website are well done and is making waves throughout the Salt Lake City valley area.

Do you see the bright yellow lights flashing in front of you? Please show caution and, if possibly, help lift your boyfriend out of confusion.

Addition - The term cult is offensive to most groups and doesn't do much good in using it. If, by cult, you mean a group which diverges from Biblical Christianity, you are correct. If, by cult, you mean a group which believes that they alone have the keys to salvation, you are correct. But LDS/Mormons really resent that term and I always avoid it out of love and respect.

And, in reference for the recommendation for you pray about whether they are the true church...that is a oblique reference to praying about the Book of Mormon and seeing if you have a "burning bossom". I would suggest that truth should be measured against the Word of God, not a bodily feeling which is often in error.

It says in Proverbs 14:12 -There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof [are] the ways of death. (quoted in KJV, the Mormon version of choice).

So just because you have a burning sensation or if something sounds good to you, doesn't mean it to be truth. Stick with the Bible, the inspired word of God, at all times.

If I relied on "feelings" as my guide, I'd have picked up a few girlfriends on the side over the years - and I'm a married man. These feelings would have led to a spiritual death.

But I rely instead on The Bible - The word of God. This is what John Wesley radically taught and is still the foundation of true Methodism.

I can see more down thumbs coming now! But that's OK, I am honestly trying to help you, not please the crowds.

God bless :)

Answer 2

If you are not a Mormon and do not accept Mormonism I don't think you can be married in a Mormon temple. That is reserved for couples who are both Mormon. I don't know anything about Methodists and what "ideas" you want to show to him but here is an article about a couple who left the LDS church. If you google "Mormon" and "criticsm" I am sure you will find many areticles since they are so controversial.

http://www.exmormon.org/whylft50.htm
http://www.exmormon.org/

But it's very hard to change anyone's mind about their religion even if you have the most reasonable, factual information in the world and might just make the person angry.

Answer 3

As a Mormon, my advice is to continue with the missionary discussions, attend church with your boyfriend a few times, and pray about the things that are being taught to you. Then, if this religion isn't something you are interested in you may want to reconsider your relationship with your boyfriend. Being Mormon is a lifestyle with high standards ( a very gratifying lifestyle) and temple marriage is a huge part of it. Any true Mormon will not marry someone they can not take to the temple as that would not allow them to fully practice their religion. Check out the link below as it may give you some insight to the importance of temple marriage:

http://beta.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menuitem.b12f9d18fae655bb69095bd3e44916a0/?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=631e615b01a6b010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&hideNav=1

for additional info:

http://www.mormon.org/welcome/0,6929,403-1,00.html

Answer 4

Temple marriages are a big deal to Mormons. You two should sit down and have a very serious discussion about your beliefs before you go any further with the relationship. It is extremely difficult to convince a Mormon that their religion is not true because they are taught from very young that it is the only true church. They are warned against denying their faith (that God will punish them). Also, they are told only those with the Higher Priesthood will be allowed to be with God in Heaven. Who wants to give that up? I hate to suggest this but the truth is that there are many Mormons (usually women) who are part of the the faith because the men are taught to set their marriage and family as the first priorities of their life. Its a secure lifestyle in such a dangerous world. Just a thought. I am only mentioning this because it seems like you really love this guy. Make your own choice, but follow your own heart. Don't listen to anyone else in this matter.

Answer 5

there are a kind of many human being own thoughts of such. I actually have heard some, yet there is not any longer some thing written or scripture. i imagine it must be a own remember , very like own revelation. yet fairly, God helps the honest of any faith, tongue, colour, or creed. i do not fairly imagine the garment (symbolic of the animal pores and skin clothing the Lord placed on Adam and Eve) will be too efficient to everybody that became doing some thing they shouldn't do. Mine are a consistent reminder to me of the Covenants I actually have made with the Lord. no longer magical, only sacred and own.

Answer 6

I personally don't think you need someone elses writing as proof to validate your own feelings toward this matter.
You sound like a very open, honest and accepting person. To commit to someone so different from yourself is only easy if you are these things. Your boyfriend is lucky to have you.
Have you talked to him about how you feel, in relation to how you respect his own beliefs but also how his religion isn't the right one for you?
Try to explain your point of view without a report from someone else- that you respect the importance it carries for him and tell him you would be willing to go to a service or participate in another way from time to time (sorry, I don't know anything about Mormon religion) and you would like support from him to be involved in your own religion.
Your point of view and your feelings should be validation enough. You shouldn't need proof, or someone elses opinion to back to you.
Good Luck to you and your boyfriend.

Answer 7

If you want him to understand you like "you understand him" then why are you trying to prove him wrong???
It's obviously important to him because he knows it's true...and wants a forever family.
I suggest you pray to your Heavenly Father for answers, not seek for proof for anonymous people on yahoo. The Lord is the only one who can be 100% honest with you, I suggest you go to him in earnest prayer.

***So, by the way, this "cult" is so SCARY and way too dangerous for you to join...but you don't care that your boyfriend is in it - - what kind of person must he be to belong to such a DANGEROUS cult??? He must be mean and a liar and immoral and dangerous and scary if he belongs to such an awful society right? Hmmmmm.......

Answer 8

Yes it is a cult.. I strongly suggest the book "Kingdom of the Cults" by the late Dr.Walter Martin who is a direct descendant of Brigham Young and as such had privelage to hidden Mormon archives. there are 2 factions of the church
1.The church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints"
2.The reorganized church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints

I could type for hours but I will leave it with urging once again to get a copy of the book

PSS I FOUND A SITE WITH DOWNLOADABLE TEACHING BY DR. MARTIN www.waltermartin.org/mormon.html

Answer 9

There is plenty of downloadable trash on the internet from bashers and former members. The problem is this just creates contention. The Spirit can't teach either of you when you have contention between you. For every scripture, they give we give two back, but that doesn't change anyone's mind.

He has one positive. He has a testimony. Do you? Share your testimonies with each other. Build on the positives you have in common. Does he believe in Jesus Christ? Do you? If you tear him down, all you will get is a man who lost his faith. If you convert to please him, he will never have the eternal companion, he is seeking.

Answer 10

You have a pretty big problem. You are not going to be able to make this work if you can't work it out. If you are setting out to prove something to him, or him to you, it isn't going to work.

It is fine that you are looking at his beliefs, but you are not changing them. Sorry, that really doesn't directly answer your question, but that is my real answer.