Story goes, I want a puppy. I've decided that puppies that are unrelated to notoriously mean dogs do not exist in the state of Florida, so I've got an idea...
Are there any pet rescue/shelter organizations where you could aquire a femal dog of breeding age who is NOT spayed? Yes, I know someone's gonna come out and tell me that back-yard breeding is no good, but my neighbor has this great little unneutered fluffball of a mutt *i think he's got pom in him, but not enough to look it...* and this would be a one time deal. I want a small breed MIX *or purebred works, too, but that would just be icing on the cake* so that I am well assured that I could find homes for any of the puppies I may not want. I may keep them all though, I have a habit of that. Anyways, I want the puppy experience, and I would spay the female once the pups are weened so no unwanted babies.
In short, anyone know of an intact female in the Lake Butler, Fl. area of a small fluffy mix? *like a pom or pap or something*
2006-12-12
12:23:06
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Dude, y'all got me wrong. It's ONE litter that I WILL be able to find homes for, and if I can't I won't be dumping the babies at a shelter, I plan to keep any of the pups that I can't place. I want to raise a puppy, and finding one at a shelter as young as I want *I don't want anyone over three months old* is just not going to happen in my area, and then buying a purebred for 1200bucks? Um, no on that one. Small dogs have small litters, so there will probably only be 3-4 puppies, which is only 2-3 that I'd need to place. The title on this question is not from me thinking it's wrong, it's from everyone else going to think it's wrong. Personally, wouldn't you rather produce your own pet than support all the idiot puppy mills mass producing animals they can't properly place?
*sigh*
I asked this question in want of help. Thanks for all the help, people.
2006-12-12
12:42:02 ·
update #1
7 dogs is not so hard to deal with out here in no-man's land. And I said it would be nice is the mother was purebred, but I don't really care all that much about champion lines. Y'all do have a point about problems back down the line of family history, though, and with the birth complications. But people, please, quit with the "People like you make all the bad things in the world happen" comments. There's just as much chance that a show quality purebred will wind up in a shelter as a mutt, they're just less numorous. I don't want to show any dogs, I don't want to breed for profit *or money at all, for that matter* I want to do it for the satisfaction of watching a puppy go from blind and deaf to beutiful dog.
As for the mean comments, up yours. Damned animal actovist extremists...
It's one thing to shut down a puppy mill or true backyard breeder, it's another to piss off a person that wants to take care of something that needs it.
Or would y'all rather I do what I used to?
2006-12-12
12:57:12 ·
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Guess what? i am on your side. For decades I have been able to get a mutt for free. They have had the best personalities. I have been without a dog for over 5 years. I can not find a small female dog or puppy. People have turned to raising pedigreeds and being greedy and selling them for high prices. Personally, I would rather spend that money on care and vets bills to make sure she is healthy.
Good luck.
I just might take a female puppy.
2006-12-12 13:05:38
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answered by Ginger 2
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Oh, yeah, we have such a shortage of mutts in this country! People like you are the reason the shelters fix all the dogs they adopt out.
"I want the puppy experience"
Then do it right. Find the best purebred puppy you can, learn about breeding/whelping, have all appropriate health clearances done, place your puppies with contracts, and be discriminating about who you sell to.
As far as "the puppy experience" goes, do you have any idea how much time and money it costs to have a litter? How much poop you have to clean up? How hard it is to find good homes? How much an emergency C-section is?
"I would spay the female once the pups are weened so no unwanted babies"
And WHO is going to make sure the puppies you sell aren't popping out litters of mutts? Are you going to spay and neuter them all before you sell them?
" wouldn't you rather produce your own pet than support all the idiot puppy mills mass producing animals they can't properly place"
For one thing, most PMs don't produce mutts. For another, there ARE good breeders out there that don't charge $1200 for a puppy. A person breeding mutts on purpose is no better than a PM to most people. And most commercially bred puppies are BOUGHT, it is the mutts that are mostly PTS in the shelters (only 8% are PBs, on average).
2006-12-12 12:41:14
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answered by whpptwmn 5
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Don't bother with shelters because they always desex their dogs, to stop people like you breeding from them and aiding the overpopulation problem we currently have.
As you know what you are doing is wrong at least do A LOT of research into what it is like having a female ***** in whelp, what to expect during the pregnancy etc. Many females (even from experienced breeders) die from having pups, need to have C-Sections, roll on their pups and kill them, do not allow the pups to take (meaning she will not give them milk), will not clean the pups when they are born (meaning that you have to make sure you are there for the birth, as you may need to clean the afterbirth on the pups so they can breathe) and many pups can be born mutated, still born or born with heart murmurs and other health problems. Make sure you have your vet on hand. Any breeder will tell you that breeding will lose you money rather than help you make it, so have some $$ saved incase the pups/mum need urgent medical attention. A friend of mine is an experienced, registered Border Collie breeder. Her ***** just had pups and only 2 out of 7 survived, and one of the two has only three legs. Three pups were born still born and one died of heart complications... this is a woman with many years experience in breeding. No matter how good your intentions are things can go wrong.
Also, you may spay your ***** once the pups are born, but what about the puppies you sell? How will you know that they won't be bred from, and therefore produce unwanted babies? How will you be able to guarentee that the pups will be healthy, if you have only viewed the parents (there could be problems with the grandparents, which often compromise the health of the pups).
Breeding only because "you want the puppy experience" is a selfish and silly reason to do so. You are putting your future female in danger by breeding her, as well as her pups - any breeder can tell you horror stories about pregnancies, and these are people with often 20+ years experience!
Also, you mention that you would like to breed purebred pups, how can you do this if the sire you are thinking of breeding from is a mutt? Also you cannot guarentee you will get purebreds unless both parents have papers, so you can track their history.
You also mentioned that you may keep all the puppies... what if your ***** has six? You will have seven dogs! There is no way to assure you can find homes for the pups, this is one of the biggest mistakes people make - it is not that easy.
I know you won't change your mind but please consider what I have said so at least you will go into this informed and prepared.
2006-12-12 12:45:07
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answered by husky87 2
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First of all I'm not going to judge you on your reasoning. Second of all you won't find a Pet rescue/Animal Shelter that will adopt a dog out, without being spayed or neutered. Its their way of trying to control the pet population of unwanted animals.
If your wanting a small mixed breed, then I would suggest the local newspaper, or check your local veternarian. They usually have pinups of dogs needing a good home. Before you go into the breeding of a mixed breed, regardless of the size, I'd think long and hard about it. Dogs/Puppies usually have any where from 4 to 6 puppies. And are not always easy to adopt out. I've raised and adopted both large and small dogs, of different breeds. Not because of back yard breeding, but because of being a K9 handler, for a local police department, and of course haveing a business of grooming animals. It seems that people come to you, wanting to know of anyone wanting to adopt a dog. Usually its for personal reasons, that they have to find a home for their pet. So think long and hard before you get into the breeding of a dog, regardless of size.
2006-12-12 12:41:46
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answered by hoosiernumber1daddy 2
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I realize that you have plan for the puppies, once they're born, and that's commendable BUT...
You shouldn't put a dog through all that just so you can "have the experience" of raising a puppy or puppies. Why don't you try volunteering with a shelter? I'm sure they'll get pregnant females and newborn pups in there at some point. Then, you'll get the "experience" without adding to the dog (over)population.
2006-12-12 13:15:28
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answered by Anonymous
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Oh you are some piece of work now aren't you! Let us make more puppies that will need homes and take potential homes away from rescue dogs who will likely die. Sure. Let's say that we have a desire to go through the puppy life cycle to justify it... not a good reason to let other dogs die. HELLO, where the f*ck is your head? If you can provide for 7 dogs, why don't you do something useful, like foster rescues.
YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A BACKYARD BREEDER AND YOU SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A DOG, EVER!
2006-12-12 17:15:30
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answered by Sweet Cakes 3
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Why don't you volunteer at a shelter or pound first? Then after the experience of seeing many dogs having to be put down to make room for the next batch of dogs (that will be put down the next week...a lot of kill shelters and pounds only hold dogs a few days before they euthanize them because they get so many each week)... will you still want to have the 'puppy experience'?
See what too many dogs go through because of people's whims before you do something so foolish.
2006-12-12 14:15:34
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answered by suzm 1
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Umm, why don't you just adopt a dog from said shelter or rescue and leave it at that? If you are OK with breeding this mix breed dog of questionable history, why not just keep it and NOT contribute to the overpopulation problem? Be part of the solution, not the problem. And, yes, you are right. Nobody in their right mind who loves animals will EVER suggest you adopt from a shelter and breed a dog. If you don't care about the dog's history, or ever breed, just adopt from a rescue. Most legit rescues do behavior evaluations and don't adopt out dogs with aggressive tendencies.
2006-12-12 12:29:56
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answered by Lauren M 4
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If you want to experience the birth of puppies, you might want to try asking a reputable breeder if you can watch one of theirs. Or there a numerous videos out there you could watch.
There is just so much wrong with what you want to do. And so many things that could go wrong during birth.
Not to mention adding to the pet overpopulation.
2006-12-12 12:32:54
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answered by Bindi *dogtrainingbyjess.com* 7
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If you really want to do the puppy thing, why not just get a puppy?
You do realize how many dogs and puppies are put to death everyday because of people like you?
If you want to breed dogs, do it responsibly. Do not mix, stick to one breed, and do all the research and reading first.
Otherwise, do not breed. Please, for the love of all the darling little puppies killed each day, please don't breed those mutts.
2006-12-12 12:36:34
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answered by mami3jc 3
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