Consider the following scenarios:
A) I create an IVF embryo and then destroy it
B) I create an IVF embryo, clone it, implant it in it's mother's womb, and destroy the clone
C) I create an IVF embryo, clone it, then implant the clone and destroy the original
D) I intend to create an IVF embryo, I have a viable sperm, egg, and petri dish all set to go, but then at the last minute I change my mind and don't create an embryo
In all 4 scenarios, there was a potential for human life, which I ended. Do they all constitute murder? Where do you draw the line, and why?
Note for the uninitiated: an IVF embryo is an embryo created using in vitro fertilization. These will, under the right circumstances, become human beings. I mention them because my scenarios would be difficult to imagine if I were creating all these embryos the old-fashioned way.
2006-12-12 11:24:49 · 14 answers · asked by abram.kelly 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Sorry, my answer is kinda off-topic, but ok..
IVF works the best if the woman is relaxed right after the embryo is implanted. I was reading about a research they did with clowns, I believe it was in Australia, but I'm not sure. They tested on 50 women how bringing a clown into the room would affect the chances of the women getting pregnant.
With the women they tested _with_ a clown there was a much higher succes than with the women who didn't have a clown in their room after the treatment. Simply beause the women laughed and reduced their stress about the embryo that had just been implanted.
I was never very fond of clowns, in fact my stress rate would go up a few levels with a clown in the room, but it seems they save lives with this.
Anyway, to answer the question: of course non of the scenarios are murder. I'm pro-choice, which also means I can completely understand if a woman has huge problems with having an abortion. But how on earth anybody can consider IVF to be murder goes far beyond my imagination.
2006-12-12 11:41:18 · answer #1 · answered by Thinx 5 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Whew! Don't you want to start a fight. Allow me to state this before I answer. My wife and I discussed the importance of birth. We decided that there was no good reason to abort a child that was viable in her womb. That meant even if she were raped, incest, or that the baby might take her life. Through evil and difficult times God provides blessings. Regular raising is hard enough and the others would be more of a challenge, but they would still have a place at my table and an abundance of love.
So. A, B, C the answer is no. D is tricky but I would say that since neither are joined that would be the line, thin though it may be.
I believe there is even a foundation to "adopt IVF embryo's. I think it is the Snowflake foundation.
2006-12-12 11:35:52 · answer #2 · answered by crimthann69 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I believe that killing any embryo is unethical because without any intervention (apart from implanting it in the womb in the case of IVF) will become a human being. I would like to know what people would think if there parents had considered aborting them as embros.
I genuinely have no idea why so many liberal people are pro-abortion, because it makes no sense with all the good, ethical liberal values, which I believe in, and which far outweigh any good values, if there are any, of the right-wing.
2006-12-12 11:48:21 · answer #3 · answered by fleaciante 2 · 0⤊ 2⤋
No one has proven that SHC even exists, let alone explain a cause. You might as well ask "What causes ghosts and vampires?". Someone might be found dead, alone, from being burnt, so someone else postulates spontaneous human combustion. Why would there never be any witnesses? Bogus, whether you want to believe the "wick theory", or the human body--fat burning theory, or whatever, there is always a cause. Nothing bursts into flame by itself, not even a dry sheet of paper on a hot day. Much less a living being made of mostly water. SHC is bogus baloney.
2016-05-23 16:10:43 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
These are, as you say, only potential life. Why not focus on the real lives being destroyed in war? War is mass murder of real, living people.
2006-12-12 11:37:45 · answer #5 · answered by sudonym x 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
None of those is murder, legally.
None of those is the ethical equivalent of murder.
Anyone who can't tell the moral difference between these kinds of things and murdering a human being has a really serious problem, either mental or moral.
2006-12-12 11:29:44 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 1⤋
No more so than to use contraceptive devices which prevent potential life by stopping the meeting of potential objects and preventing their joining thus preventing the potential for life during that encounter.
2006-12-12 11:30:14 · answer #7 · answered by Walking on Sunshine 7 · 4⤊ 0⤋
in my opinion, potential life is not life, therefore under this logic it is not murder because murder is the loss of LIVING life
2006-12-12 11:28:20 · answer #8 · answered by Mayonaise 6 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Is killing sperm cells or egg cells murder? They are alive too.
2006-12-12 11:38:54 · answer #9 · answered by The Pope 5 · 3⤊ 0⤋
no, it's a potiental life, not actual and currently living life yet.
How about this situation: a baby girl is born with her twin attached head to head. Her twin has a fully functional brain and they each have their own seperate emotions and thoughts. Her twin also has no organs. (see pic)
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If the twin is kept, both will die. If her twin is seperated then it will die. Is this murder?
2006-12-12 11:32:49 · answer #10 · answered by ur a Dee Dee Dee 5 · 4⤊ 0⤋