Why are there some christians that still think the mix of religion and state is "right and lawful". I mean , I heard them explain that the U.S was supposed to be a christian nation and they provide the Declaration of Independence as "proof" that is was because of the word "god" written in it, but what they need to know is that the Declaration of Independence does not represent any law of the United States.It came before the establishment of our lawful government (the Constitution). The Constitution forms a secular document, and nowhere does it appeal to God, Christianity, Jesus, or any supreme being. The first amendment states that
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." Making religion into law and requirements breaks the first amendment.
2006-12-12
09:31:13
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This is the source of my question
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Tripoli.htm
2006-12-12
09:38:59 ·
update #1
Gary, i“The government of the United States is not in any sense founded upon the Christian religion” John Adams
“This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it” John Adams.
2006-12-12
09:50:40 ·
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They are ignorant and think that their way is the only way.
2006-12-12 09:34:34
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answered by Anonymous
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LOL
Where to begin? First, the Bible can't be US law. That'd make no sense. What would judges make of the Song of Solomon? Or for that matter the Book of Judges?
The US Constitution BEGINS with a reference to God. The Preamble is PART of it! So don't get your panties in a bunch. And the meaning of 'Congress shall make no law..." was to prevent a Church of America from taking over here, like it did in England and Germany. It has NOTHING to do with keeping to the basic tenants of Christianity, which is NOT A RELIGION. If anything, the government is *restricting* the free exercise of religion when it prevents manger scenes and crosses on public property.
And the Supreme Court decided in the 19th century that the US is indeed a Christian nation. That decision has not been officially overturned.
2006-12-12 17:46:41
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answered by Anonymous
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The founders did base their constitution on God given rights that they all agreed with. We do have the the God given right to choose our religion or lack there of. I do not know why some Christians feel the need to have morality legislated. Especially by prohibiting things that are in demand and creating black markets ect... I think it may have to do with a lack of Faith and feeling like they have to do something to change other people. I think it is wrong too. It is causing strife and hatred. I believe that religion should stick to helping people find the Lord when they are looking and promoting things like patience, love, respect ect... and be for God and not against stuff.
I have Faith that God can change hearts without the governments help. He has done it for years now and He does not need them.
Jesus wasn't all about politics. He was about helping individuals.
2006-12-12 17:42:59
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answered by bess 4
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I think the fact that the "Founders" founded a democracy rather than a theocracy is a pretty big indicator of their intentions.
And for Gary above - your quotes are false or taken out of context. How about this one:
“The government of the United States is not in any sense founded upon the Christian religion” John Adams
Or: “This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it” John Adams
http://en.thinkexist.com/quotes/John_Adams/
2006-12-12 17:36:02
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answered by Phoenix, Wise Guru 7
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I enjoyed the first person who responded. He seems to have more quotations than he knows what to do with. While George Washington and John Adams and the like did, indeed, say such things, we have to understand what IS and what IS NOT a Christian principle. For many, putting Bibles in the classroom and teaching creationism is an excellent example of how to promote Christianity.
However, for people like me, the best way to promote Christianity is through love. Love, in its true form, is not discriminatory, therefore, I'm not either. I believe that love is blind, pure, and selfless and must be extended to EVERYONE. Some may argue that if you love someone, then you will share the gospels. I believe that if you love someone, then you will treat them with respect, sharing your story and your faith at appropriate times and at appropriate places. I have many friends who are not Christians, but that's okay... They're still great friends...
2006-12-12 17:49:08
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answered by TransyMAJ 2
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Making laws that limit the free exercise of religion is also against the first amendment. The purpose of the first amendment is to "protect" religion-not "prohibit" it.
2006-12-12 17:37:06
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answered by DATA DROID 4
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Read THIS, Pal:
" It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible". - George Washington
" The Bible is the cornerstone of libery". -- Thoms Jefferson"
"That Book (the Bible), sir, is the Rock on which our Republic rests". - Andrew Jackson
"God who gave us life and liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed the conviction that these liberties are a gift from God?" - Thomas Jefferson
"It is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God and to obey His will". -- George Washington
" We stake the whole future history of this nation upon the ablility of its people to govern & control themselves according to the 10 Commandments". -- James Madison ...Chief Archetect of the US Constsitution and 2nd Pres. of US.
America was founded as a Christian Nation according to John Adams: "The highest history of the American revolutionis this:It connected in ONE INDISSOLUABLE BOND the principles of civil government with the principles of CHRISTIANITY". -- John Adam - 2nd President of the U S
Does that answer your question?
2006-12-12 17:34:24
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answered by Anonymous
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Well, it makes sense really. There are no laws against any of the "laws" in the Bible, and in reality most countries use the Bible as a basis for most of their law making anyway. I mean, who's going to argue against no murdering, adultery, and a rest day once a week?
2006-12-12 17:39:16
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answered by bezzy_mack 2
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it's religious fanaticism same as muslims in the middle east and how they use islam as their law of the land
2006-12-12 17:42:35
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answered by Anonymous
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well for one thing, it will create more government positions to deal with the non-ending bureaucracy. hehehe...
2006-12-12 17:35:39
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answered by That's A Lot of Nonsense 3
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