I remember my patron saint, Dr. H. A. Ironside, telling about preaching once on this theme of the safety and security of the believer. A woman came up to him afterwards and said to him, "I don't agree with your doctrine." "What don't you agree with?" he asked her. "Well, this doctrine of once saved, always saved," she replied. He said to her, "Let me read you a verse that says that." She said, "Oh, I know what you are going to read. You are going to read John 10:28, aren't you?" He replied, "As a matter of fact that is the verse I was going to read." So he read the words, "'I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish and no one can snatch them out of my hand.' Do you believe that?" he asked her. "Not according to your interpretation," she replied. "But I didn't interpret it, I just read it to you," Dr. Ironside said. "Well," she replied, "I don't believe the way you see it." Then let me read it this way," he said. "Supposing it said, 'I give them life for 20 years, and they shall never perish for 20 years and no one can snatch them our of my hand for 20 years,' what would you think about that?" She said, "I think they would be safe for 20 years." He said, "Let us say 40 years. Would they be safe for 40 years?" "Yes," she said, "I think they would be safe for 40 years." "But it doesn't say 20 or 40 years, it says eternal life: 'and they shall never perish.'" The Greek text is very strong at that point. What it literally says is, "They shall not ever perish forever." Let's read it that way: "'I give unto them life forever and they shall never perish forever.'"
2006-12-12 04:50:12
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answered by Bruce 3
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My church says it this way, "I have been saved, and being saved and I hope to be saved". A more accurate stance, though a bit paradoxical. Everyday is the day of salvation, as you submit your life more and more to Christ. And confession is considered the baptism of tears, as you repent of sins. Salvation is an ongoing process that can be stopped at any time. God isn't going to force anyone to stay a Christian.
There is no such thing as once saved always saved. That is a fairy tale. Never in the history of the church did we have complacency such as that.
Those who see sin in the modern church will look at the Ancient Church, with all the wonders and miracles, and inaccurately think, well, they were close to the time of Jesus, of course they had those miracles. Or could it be something more? Could it be that what they truly had, was obdience and holiness? And this allowed God to move in their lives and with their lives? Thus the miracles?
The church has never stopped the miracles. Never once did they wane, you can see this in the lives of the Saints. Even now, we still have the Holy Fire of Jerusalem. The Paschal Fire that happens every year on Holy Saturday.
2006-12-12 04:38:28
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answered by Felicitas 3
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That's crap. There is no one saved always saved and there is no you must get saved constantly. When a person accepts the Lord Jesus Christ as their Lord and personal Saviour they are saved. They have turned from death to life and is now on a journey. On that journey many things take place, this is called life and in this life we will have troubles, problems, tribulations....etc. However, Jesus gave us the confidence that we can come to God, His Father at anytime, if we run in to difficulties and if we ask for forgiveness, He will forgive us. Salvation is not an on and off thing, like a light switch - it's on when we do good and off when we stumble and fall. It is a progression but we have the choice to want and need God in our daily life or not.
2006-12-12 04:43:33
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answered by charmaine f 5
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Salvation is a process. The decision to follow Christ is a turning point. Otherwise, the parable about the good seed doesn't mean what Jesus said it meant.
It is impossible to restore to repentance those who were once enlightened-those who have experienced the good things of heaven and shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the power of the age to come and who then turn away from God. It is impossible to bring such people to repentance again because they are nailing the Son of God to the cross again by rejecting him, holding him up to public shame.
Hebrews 6:4-6
See to it that you obey God, the one who is speaking to you. For if the people of Israel did not escape when they refused to listen to Moses, the earthly messenger, how terrible our danger if we reject the One who speaks to us from heaven! When God spoke from Mount Sinai his voice shook the earth, but now he makes another promise: "Once again I will shake not only the earth but the heavens also." This means that the things on earth will be shaken, so that only eternal things will be left.
Since we are receiving a Kingdom that cannot be destroyed, let us be thankful and please God by worshiping him with holy fear and awe. For our God is a consuming fire.
Hebrews 12:25-29
2006-12-12 04:39:12
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answered by Jay Z 6
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I still sin on a regular basis. We all do. But God, being omnipotent, knows about every one of my sins, even before I commit them. Since He knows about my sins; past, present, and future, He was able to forgive me of my sins; past present and future. I confess my sins daily to maintain my relationship with Him, but I only needed to be saved once. Since God knows the end from the beginning, if He knew I was going to lose my salvation, why would He bother to save me the first time? Why not wait until I got all of my ducks in a row and save me once? Because He knows that we never get it completely right, we will always stumble. But He is there to pick us up and dust us off and set us on our feet to try again.
2006-12-12 04:34:52
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answered by Anonymous
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But an atheist DOES rule out the likelihood. An atheist thinks an agnostic is solely an equivocator An agnostic thinks an atheist is untimely. Perhaps I can transparent this up quite. As an atheist, I am DEAD FREAKIN CERTAIN that the "god" of the Judeo-Christian faith, AS DESCRIBED, does now not exist. And so too for the entire mainstream religions of the sector, AS DESCRIBED. So I bet that makes me a "selective" atheist, or a "discriminating atheist" or, in THAT experience, agnostic, in that I are not able to rule out a few type of inventive drive--- does that make any experience?
2016-09-03 07:25:45
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answered by darland 4
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One saved, always saved. But I do believe that you can walk away from God. He has given us free will so that we can make our own choices. That is why there are so many other religions out there.
2006-12-12 04:34:35
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answered by Jinny E 5
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