I have a friend who belongs to a church. He is Christian and goes to church every week to do the things you all do etc (i dont go any more). BUT.......He is living his life in a lie and is very down and depressed most of the time. He is Gay BUT because his church and his family are totally against this he will never live the life he so wants too. His family have prayed for him etc, taking him to couselling etc and ofcourse none of this is going to help.
He believes SO MUCH that if he was to have a sexual relationship with another man, that he would lose his place in Gods Kingdom. His family have told him he would be no son of theres if he ever truely lives the life of a gay man, so he lives this lie and its tearing him apart.
What are your views on this?????
2006-12-12 03:56:14 · 45 answers · asked by Mystic Magic 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
This is one of my major problems with the church and with God. Because I want to beleive in a loveing, forgiving, understanding God. Not a petty and vindictive one who will cast you out for being what you are. You can't change who you are (or you can and live a lie like you friend), maybe you should ask him whether he acctually wants to go to heaven if God is like the people in the church say he is. Maybe you could put him in contact with one of the lesbian, gay and bisexual christian organisations around. Because it's a similar thing for me in that none of my friends or family are into going to church or even really beleiving in God and for that, according to the church I used to go to, that means eternal damnation for them all, and how could heaven be paradise without the people I love, knowing that they are suffering? I'd rather go to hell then be in heaven without them. The God I want to beleive in accepts people for who they are and if they are good people having lived good lives they deserve a place with him.
2006-12-12 04:04:11 · answer #1 · answered by Tilly 5 · 2⤊ 4⤋
up front I will have to tell you I am against homosexuality from a biblical stand point. I do try my hardest to live according tho the Lords teachings. What if one of my children turned gay? I would love them. My kids are young and I often tell them their is nothing they do or would ever do, that would not make me love them. Would I be happy about it? No. For my own selfish reasons of course. Would I deny my child, ridicule them, or not allow them or their partner in my house or my life. Of course not. I would tell my opinion, you know me. After that is is their choice what they would like to do. It is not my life, it is theirs. They have to make their own choice. I will raise them up the best I can and be happy I turned productive people into the world. God forgives all. I ultimatly believe that. Their is only one unforgivable sin and that is the sin against the Holy Spirit.
2006-12-12 04:08:11 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
First its wrong that he has to lie all the time because his family will not accept him because he is gay this is not right.
As a christian you have to love everyone and have a heart to reach out. The truth is he will never be able to convince his family members who are christians that taking the gay path is right because this is regarded as wrong in the Bible but what his family should do is encourage him to speak out and talk to them, because it could be that he is really hurting out of something that happened to him as a child or in his lifetime.
Instead of shutitng him out they should try and talk to him and understand him, because at the end of the day if they keep shutting him out they may regret it one day.
2006-12-12 04:26:23 · answer #3 · answered by shiro 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Sin is still sin, complete with it's consequences, even when you are Christian. It is not a license to continue in sin. If he feels that he is living a lie, it is because it is still an issue for him to overcome.
Repentance is a heartfelt remorse and sadness for what sins we have done in our life. It is a conscience decision of our will, to come into agreement with God's will for our life. If he so wants to live his former way of life, then he has not grown in his relationship with God to this point yet. That still does not excuse him to follow the desires of his flesh. That is his anguish, because he already knows this.
God has made a way for us to overcome. Through His Holy Spirit. We already have the victory over sin and death when we accepted Christ as our Savior, and He knew that we would need help. Read John 14:6-27. Without Him, it would be impossible.
God is real and alive, waiting and wanting to go one on one, to establish a dynamic and powerful relationship with us. Your friends faith has brought him this far... a little more faith... asking God, without doubt in his heart, in the firm belief that God can and will accomplish His will in his life. Simply because it IS God's will for his life. We can do all things through Christ.
I hope that your friend will find this usefull, and I pray that God will give him joy and peace as he grows in the love and grace of our Lord. May God bless him and you.
2006-12-12 04:25:39 · answer #4 · answered by Bill Mac 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Oh, I'm going to piss some people off! The Bible says that Homosexuality is an abomination. "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination" - Leviticus 18:22. Plain and simple. And I do not believe that one is born homosexual. It is a lie from Satan, and a straight up sin. And thanks to the graciousness of Christ, sin can be forgiven and turned from, but it's a person's consious decision to turn from their sin. Christians should not judge people, but knowing what God says about homosexuality, it is a consious effort to love these people without judging them. I have a couple of gay friends, and they know where I stand on the subject, and they just don't ask me to talk about it, but I still love them and accept them. Feel free to call me closed minded, or judgemental, but, that's what God says, and I believe it!
2006-12-12 04:30:00 · answer #5 · answered by Carpenter's Daughter 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I would pray with him as a friend and be there for him. I am a christian.It's not that I dont like gays, I just dont agree with there life still. I would say just be there for him and help him with this. God still loves him even though he is gay. He is still a child of God. But how he is living i sstill a sin. I beleive and and he should have faith in God that he will help him through this.
2006-12-12 05:09:30 · answer #6 · answered by Holly S 1 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Remind your friend that the bible is written by MEN. Besides I believe PAUL not God or Jesus was quoted in stating sins in Homo sexuality as well as in Witchcraft. (imagine that). I do KNOW that Jesus was quoted in saying he came for sinners not the righteous. Something to the effect that it is not the healthy who need to see a Doctor but those who or sick. That's why we read about him living and talking with the poor, the sick, the prostitutes and the thieves. Paul should have been reminded of his days as before he changed his name. I wish you and your friend peace and luck. Gods are what you believe is right, not what the RIGHTEOUS say is god. BB Sdw
2006-12-12 04:22:22 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
This is a hard position to be in, however the bible is very clear on what God thinks of this. This is not an acceptable lifestyle in God's eyes according to the bible.
First, your friend needs to know that God loves Him completely, right now as he is and is unable to love him more than He already does. This is God's perfect love and has nothing to do with his actions.
Secondly, if your friend truly accepted Jesus in his heart he has become a citizen of heaven and is only a resident of this world. This citizenship cannot be traded, sold or stolen and is irrevocable by anyone. Our placement or position in the kingdom of heaven is determined by our choices and actions, however, our entrance is a true gift, freely given and offered to all mankind.
Thirdly, having a sexual relationship with another man is a sin. As a new creation your friend is no longer ruled or mastered by sin in his life. The deposit of the Holy Spirit in us is our enabler to be strong when and where we are weak. If your friend is unable to break the bondage of this desire then he is not battling Satan. He is contending with his own habits and inclinations. Satans bondage over us has been broken. When we refuse to change our habits and discipline our thoughts we invite the bondage of sin back into our life.
I do not say this is easy, I do say that there is hope. If your friend will turn this over to Jesus, constantly and every time the urge or desire comes up, he will overcome this. What we submit to grows stronger and what we resist grows weaker. My favorite response when temptation is knocking, which always starts in the mind is; "Jesus, would you get that for me?" In our favor we do not try to change our self the way the world does from the outside in. God changes us from the inside out. If we are willing and open our self up to His hand on our life, molding and shaping us, we are changed. This does not always occur all at once and sometimes takes alot longer than we would like. It is important to remember that God is in control and that we have access to divine strength and self-discipline regarding our weaknesses.
Hebrews 4:15
For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet was without sin. Jesus has truly done it all for us, all we have to do is accept what He has done for us.
To encourage your friend all of us have a thorn or area of weakness that requires divine help and submission to Lordship. He is not alone in His struggle and he has access to a God that is never to busy to listen, give help and strength and recieve encouragement from.
Our faith is putting into action what we believe. As Christians we believe in the truth claims of God that are written in the bible. All sin promises to serve and to please, but only desires to enslave and dominate. The aim of the cross is not success in life. Success in life is the result of the cross and having a personal relationship with a Living God that loves and accepts us completely even with all of our imperfections.
2006-12-12 05:27:13 · answer #8 · answered by David R 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
God places within each of us a "test" to overcome on our journey to Him. For some it's a love of alcohol & a pre-disposition to become an alcoholic. For some it's drugs. For some it's love of money & they become work-a-holics. For some it's a relationship with someone of the opposite sex outside of marriage. For some it's gluttony - the love of food. We each have our temptations. For the homosexual it's the desire for sex with a member of the same sex. The truth is that if any of us give in to our human nature and live to satisfy only our human desires then we all will be denied our place in the Kingdom of God by our own choice. God offers forgiveness for the above-mentioned sins and He will give us strength to deny those human desires. The Bible says to "take up our cross & follow Him." The problem with our society is that we all believe it should be OK for everyone to follow & pursue their own sinful nature and desires and we have the gall to tell God that He should be OK with that. I personally feel that homosexuals must be the strongest people in the world for God to have allowed them to have that temptation to overcome. But it can be done. I have seen it in my own church. It's a choice - right or wrong; God or man; sinful desires or Godly desires. If there was a married man in this same church struggling with his desires to have sex with another woman would you be as valiant in taking up the fight to support his right to the pursuit of happiness?
2006-12-12 04:16:11 · answer #9 · answered by Pamela 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
We must hate the sin not the sinner and so his family needs to be reminded of this. Homosexuality is the result of 1. a traumatic experience. 2. modeled behavior 3. The spirit of homosexuality. Your friend doesnt have to act on it. He needs to renew his mind and read and go over what God has said a man is and is supposed to do and he should act and state these things. Then he needs to get with some people who are Holy Spirit filled and they can pray and fast the spirit of homosexuality out of your friend. then he will no longer be torn apart.
2006-12-12 04:08:53 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋
Its true that the Bilbe says homosexuality is a sin. BUT..so is lying, cheating,lusting, stealing, ect ect ect. Sin is Sin.. and we are ALL quilty. I do NOT belive that any one sin is greator than another ( except blasphamy of the holy spirit) AND all sin is forgivable. Why some fundamentalists think they can lable some sins worse than others and think they can predict Gods judgement I do now know. What I DO belive is if somene was BORN gay.. our loving GOD would NOT want him or her to live a long lonely life with no love. I would tell your friend to find another church. One moe based on Love, not judgement. Life is too short to be so unhappy.
2006-12-12 04:03:56 · answer #11 · answered by kaisergirl 7 · 3⤊ 3⤋