There is enough money available right now for Congress to bring the troops home in 6 months, should they?

Question

...Or should they follow the Iraq Study Group plan to appropriate more money to the Pentagon in order to indefinitely keep the troops there for the purpose of privatizing Iraq oil. This would mean that the "combat" troops would be redeployed into permanent Iraq bases with other missions so that international oil companies can buy it.

Consider that US voters want the troops to come home and that the troops have been there through several cycles...and are exhausted.

Consider also that the oil reserves in the US are said to be low, even though the industry has made what people call obscene profits $9 billion, with no real investigation by Congress.

The crime is not making profits from oil. The crime is committing an invasion against a nation for WMD's, and then saying you're bringind Democracy, and then finally, according to the Iraq Study Group, making the mission oil. That is a crime.
But since Bush has the troops there anyway, should they complete that mission?

Answer 1

We need to do 2 things bring our troops home and put the CEO of the oil Co's in their place. These guy are killing America and they don't care they have no loyalty to their country. There is no way Exxon should be allowed to make 36 billion in profits in 1 quarter. They paid 400 million to the CEO. They should pay a large sum for affordable health care.

Answer 2

First of all, there's no crime in making profits off of oil. Congress has no need to investigate oil companies making profits unless they have cause to believe they are doing something illegal in the process.

Secondly, I don't believe that the troops should leave in six months. Whether or not the public supports the war is pretty much irrelevant at this point - we got in it with their support and we have to see it through. The troops are not there for the purpose of privatizing Iraqi oil...I think you've been listening too much to the biased media. I don' t think there is anyone out there who thinks the situation in Iraq is going splendidly, but pulling out now would be the most highly irresponsible action yet.

I actually support sending a huge influx of troops to Iraq for a short period of time because I think that would be the best mitigating force to the craziness going on. They would quickly and efficiently quell the day-to-day violence while simultaneously training and putting into place an actual, viable, military or peacekeeping force. Then perhaps all the troops WILL be able to come home in a shorter period of time.

Answer 3

Absolutly NO! By setting a timetable for withdrawl, we are setting a timetable for defeat which means that the terrorists know how long the need to last to win. If we decide to leave before the job is done all we're going to do is leave Iraq a worse place than we found it.

I would also like to know where you get the opinion that voters want the troops home. Polls are almost always misleading in their results because the questions they ask are subjective questions that want typically a yes or no answer to a question that is FAR FAR more complicated than that. And if you're going to use the recent election as a "referendum" on the Iraq issue, please don't. THe majority of seats that Democrats won were won by people who consider themselves to be moderates rather than liberal. Also please bear in mind that the voters of CN REJECTED a canndidate whose main issue was his opposition to the war.

Now if CN won't elect someone liek that then how can you say the American people are against the war?

As for the oil, its basic economic theory. As more people buy cars and drive them, gas consumption is all but FORCED to increase. Unless you adjust the price of the good, then an increase in quantity sold will ALWAYS increase profit. Yes its obscene, but its because you (the people) are making it that way.

P.S. If you want to investigate someone, then it should be the government when it comes to taxes on this stuff. I'm not sure of the percentages of it, but I know that the gevernment gets the largest cut of the gas price. Profit in many cases is one of the SMALLEST percentages.

P.P.S. And if you want to blame someone for high gas prices, blame Congress. Its their fault we don't drill in Alaska, and build new refineries (which is where the real problem is at).

Answer 4

Our government ran out of money a long time ago, that's why we are in a deficit. The Bush administration cut taxes but spent more, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. China is buying up most of our debt. Taxes need to be raised to pay this off I'm afraid. It's like using your credit card, you have to pay it off sooner or later. Did you know that prior to WWI England was the world's superpower until they went into massive dept to support their spending through two world wars. The US is who Lent them the most. Then the US became a superpower. Many think that the US's power has peaked. And now look, we are now in dept to a rising country, China. See any scary similarities?

As for troops in Iraq, sorry to say but we'll need to be there for ten to fifteen years to keep it stable. We have already began to build permanent bases there. Part of Donald Rumsfeld's reorganization of the military was to shift some of our influence and power from stable regions like Europe and build bases in less stable places, i.e, the middle east.

I would love for all the troops to come home today, but I think we have created such a mess over there that we need to stay and fix it.

Answer 5

History is a MOFO.
Is their anyone here who ever heard of the Korean Conflict. That war was never won or lost, because a seize fire was called, and what happened? The US permanently set up bases in country, that still exist today, 50 years later. Is there a pattern here? Only there was no oil in Korea. So what, if we will do that for a small country off the Japanese sea, are we going to do for a country that supplies our cars and trucks the raw crude they need to take our overweight, lazy, TVnation asses from the suburds to the city.

Answer 6

I don't believe the troops should be brought back home until Iran is neutralized, and Ahmadinejad is destroyed. If we bring them back now, we will have to send them back at a later date to finish the job.

Look at all the transportation costs we will save by staying in country until the job is done. Or do we need to rely on Israel to do the job for us?

The domestic oil reserves will be brought to par when the price for oil is cheap. The profits made by the oil companies vs domestic oil reserves have nothing to do with each other, unless someone in the industry is in cahoots with someone in control of domestic oil, to make a few extra bucks. It wouldn't shock me, but if it is happening nothing short of treason, should be the punishable crime!

Answer 7

I already went through this nightmare in Viet Nam.

The United States of America brought shame and disgrace upon itself by abandoning our allies and reneging on our promises.

Another thing - - - why do we have such short memories?

President Bush never told us this would be quick or easy.

After the attacks of 11 September 2001, President Bush addressed a joint session of the United States Congress.

He said this war would be global, fought in many countries, over a very long period of time, with no end in sight, and much of it would be secret.

He told us there would be many heroes whom we'd never know about, because their deeds had to be kept secret.

I suspect there's a lot more to the actions in Iraq and Afghanistan than we've been told, or which we'll never know.

Answer 8

Why we went in was justified. You are one that disbelieves it, and you didn't go in and see what we have seen. So I am not going to argue. you believe what you want.

The mission will always change. Bottom line is; "Do the Iraqi's want us there?"

If the Iraq government want us there, then there is not an issue. If we decide to stay for the best intrest of the U.S. then there is no issue as long as we are invited.

You show me one shred of proof that says anything done up to now is illegal. Show me how it is illegal if we set up 'permanent' installations. Show me SOMETHING illegal.

You can't. Plain and simple.

Answer 9

Yes but that doesnt mean they'll bring them hope at all...I know this recruiter he may be able to answer your questions since I believe recruiters know more about when and if what unit actually comes back. His name is Sergeant Daniel Post- Phone number 936-756-7002 (ARMY CENTER/RECRUIT CENTER-OPEN 9AM CT-10 PM CT) just in case you want more in dept insight of for example what the Army is trying to do and it's tactics of bringing in some of their platoons back from Iraq.

Answer 10

I would leave the decision up to the military. The troops know the situation better than anyone else...it should be there choice and we should be supportive.