Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.....thoughts?

Question

Well, what if I am suicidal and I would have someone kill me as my preference? Am I then allowed to kill morally?

Or what if I enjoy being urinated on? Do I "do unto others as I would have them do unto me?"

Thats why G-d's Laws are superior to this idea of morality.

Thoughts? Answers?

Answer 1

All I can say is, that when the Bible talks about doing unto others as you would do to yourself - its written in the context of Love.

In the context of love, you would not want to do anything immoral to those you love.

Answer 2

The Golden Rule is known in many religions. I you would like to be loved, love others!

Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Sihks and others have been taught that to love (respect) God, our Creator, with their whole being and above all earthly "things" and to think and act with compassion and forgiveness toward their fellow (wo)men is the right way for any person to live and achieve inner PEACE.

According to those wisdoms killing, or even hating and judging, is Not an option. (Someone should tell G.W. Bush! He claims to be a Christian! or others who claim to kill in the name of "religion".)

Just imagine! If all Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, Sihks and Jews would willingly (not because they have been told) act out of compassion toward the "others" (as they were ALL taught!) there truly would be peace on Earth!

Unfortunately we are not perfect and to bear "our cross" often seems too hard (or illogical, or "unscientific, or unrealistic etc). - No, I'm not perfect either!

That's why we have to learn to be honest to ourselves and admit that we have failed, again and again and again, and resolve to (at least try to) do better next time!

Because WE are not perfect we also have to forgive others for offences they may have committed against us.

We can then ask for forgiveness and get "peace of mind" - until the next time.

As someone put it: "Love (I don't mean sex) is the answer - whatever the question".

Answer 3

I agree with Good Times. You've created a Straw Man argument. The weakest possible, designed to be defeated, and so you have. But it's like watching someone wrestle a teddy bear. Amusing...but hardly worthwhile.

And you've missed the whole spirit of Karma that goes into the "Do unto others" philosophy.

Answer 4

Okay if you want somebody to kill you or if you enjoy being urinated on than the corresponding behavior would be to kill somebody who wanted you to or to urinate on somebody who liked that. I don't know if its right or wrong but its different from what you implied because you left out the voluntary aspect. Second, isn't "do unto others" one of "God's laws?" Third, you can poke holes in that saying on technical grounds but I think the spirit of it just means to "Love thy Neighbor" so to speak.

Answer 5

The Golden Rule. I read in Karen Armstrong's book that there's two versions of the golden rule. The one most of us are familiar with is:

Do onto others as you'd like them to do onto you.

But the older and better version is:

Do NOT do onto others what you don't want done onto you.

It makes more sense when you consider that some people may not want to be done onto.

Answer 6

You forgot about all those millions of sadomasochists in the world! I certainly wouldn't want them doing to me what they want me doing to them...

You are right - because different people like different things, what different people want other people to do to them is never a unanimous absolute.

That is why I prefer, "An' it harm none, do what ye will." So long as it does not cause harm to yourself or another living thing, do whatever you want to. Granted, this is of course impossible to achieve (especially if you are familiar with the "butterfly effect"), but the important thing to remember is to never cause any INTENTIONAL harm. We are all fallible, so we all make mistakes. Sh!t happens.

Blessed be!

Answer 7

Yes, I personally don't have a problem with people being allowed to die or you helping them if that is what they really want. You need to be sure it is really what they want and there is no way to help them not want that. But I would rather die than live in agonizing pain or a persistent vegetative state for the rest of my life. We treat our pets better in this aspect. You Christians are mucking this one up, and I am usually morally on your side.

As long as they are into it too, go for it. Sounds sick to me and I really don't want to hear about it, but more power to you.

It really is as simple as that first statement.

Answer 8

Considering I don't like to be urinated on, and am not suicidal, the golden rule works for me.

Answer 9

Treat others like you would want to be treated.

Meaning, be nice to others, because you would want them to be nice to you.

Normally, people that like to get urinated on are doing it as a fetish, and don't normally admit to this openly, so that makes your hypothetical irrelevent.

Also, people who think about murder normally aren't "moral", so again...this question is irrelevent.

I'm thinking that you are taking something that ALL people use(religious and non-religious) as a BASIC ideal of morality too seriously to attempt to prove your "point".

I think you failed miserably.

If we followed your god's "laws", then we would all be eating porkless diets, stoning people, and burning animals.

I think I'll pass and stick with my golden rule.

Answer 10

If you loved yourself, you wouldn't be asking this question. But you don't love yourself, so you can't even begin to understand why anyone would want to do anything for another person.