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So when your flesh passes you remain dead with it?

2006-12-11 01:05:45 · 9 answers · asked by djmantx 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Fish the image of God is the trinity. Body and spirit make a living soul Gen: 2

2006-12-11 01:11:06 · update #1

Quantrill the book of Genesis predates Christians by nearly 2000 years do a little research.

2006-12-11 01:13:07 · update #2

Beau I agree but the question was for those who do not believe in the trinity Gen chapter two explains we are all created in the image of God if we were not there would be no soul.

2006-12-11 01:15:30 · update #3

Lion very true and well written hopefully many will reach your level of understanding. I did mean to ask those who do not believe in the trinity but thanks for the input.

2006-12-11 01:21:30 · update #4

Paradox are you sure you are not a square and drank a fifth?

2006-12-11 01:30:53 · update #5

rt You definitely speak the truth according to what you can see, Have you ever considered seeking more than what you physical eyes can see?

2006-12-11 03:51:57 · update #6

Teem We are all created in the image of God which is trinity therefore we have a body and spirit and the two make a living soul whether or not we realize what the image of God means my question was meant to help you to understand their is a trinity I will research the verses you provided I am in agreement with your intrpretation of 1 Corinthians we will gain a new body and I never implied that we would not nor did i imply that those who do not beleieve in the trinity would not but rather was showing the image of God which is the reason we continue on after the flesh perishs.

2006-12-11 04:37:00 · update #7

Teem Romans 15:5,6 5 Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus:
6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

2006-12-11 04:41:17 · update #8

Somehow I missed how Paul and Christ are denying the trinity.

2006-12-11 04:42:31 · update #9

Rev 1 5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the afirst begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and bwashed us from our sins in his own blood,
6 And hath made us akings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Jesus proclaims his deity!

2006-12-11 04:46:11 · update #10

Teem God says he is the Alpah and the Omega Jesus says he is the Alpah and the Omega.....this shows the trinity not disproves it.

2006-12-11 04:47:36 · update #11

The point of the question is not to show that anyone would persish with their flesh but that the reason we will not is demonstrated in the trinity.

2006-12-11 04:54:18 · update #12

Teem I printed Rev. 1:5-8 Christ clearly proclaims his deity It would be foolish to think the writer of John 1 didn't understand the trinity. how do you account for Christ refering to himself as the Alpha and the Omega or John 1 or Genesis 2 for that matter?

2006-12-11 05:05:53 · update #13

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I don't believe that... I believe in 1 God made of 3 ( trinity ) called God the Son, God The Father, and God the Holy Spirit.
When you die, your soul is seperated from your body and sent to Judgement... whether you are saved or not is whether you go to heaven or hell... I hope this helped...

2006-12-11 01:11:49 · answer #1 · answered by Beau Young 2 · 0 0

I don't understand your question.

What has believing in or not believing in the trinity have to do with flesh and remaining dead?

Paul said flesh and blood can not inherit the Kingdom, and that those who go to heaven receive a spiritual body (1 Cor. chapter 15)

as to the trinity, Rev 1:8; 3:12 shows that both John and Jesus didn't believe in it. so why should I?

Rom 15:5,6 shows that both Paul and Jesus didn't believe in it. so why should I?

1 Cor 11:3 shows that after Jesus when to heaven he remained in subjection to his God.

2 Cor 4:4 says that if you believe Jesus to be more than the image of God, you are believing lies from Satan, and have not spiritual eyesight but are blinded.

---Edit--- It is Rev 1:6 and not Rev 1:8 I wanted to reference, vs 6 is John speaking, vs 8 Jehovah is speaking. Notice Rev. 1:1 also

Is John the same as the angel?
Is the angel the same as Jesus?
Is Jesus the same as Jehovah?

If all are in the image of God, are all of us equal to God? of course not. (Heb 1:3, 9 shows Jesus' relationship with Jehovah)

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Check out Rom 15:6 in the NIV or the NASB, NKJV

2006-12-11 12:20:32 · answer #2 · answered by TeeM 7 · 0 0

Since my consciousness is a product of the electrical activity of my brain, when my brain ceases to function, then so will my consciousness. In other words, yes, when my flesh passes, I will remain dead with it.

The Trinity was a product of early Christian theologians in order to solve the problem of having one "god" and three figures (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) and is not mentioned in the Bible. Regardless, it is a form of polytheism. If Christians want to believe in all three, fine, so be it. But I would agree with the detractors that it IS polytheism. The whole "three people in one God" is a "have your cake and eat it, too" thing.

2006-12-11 10:11:10 · answer #3 · answered by The Doctor 7 · 0 0

The trinity is not a monotheistic view. It is also not a view of early Christians (nor is Jesus being divine). It is part of the vast majority of Christian theology that was incorporated from pagan faiths to attract more followers.

The book of Genesis does not mention the trinity.

2006-12-11 09:10:04 · answer #4 · answered by Quantrill 7 · 1 1

I am my flesh. So, yeah - when my brain stops it's electrical functions, which in turn stops all my organs from working, I'll be dead. The end. Fin. The soul is a fiction of religion.

2006-12-11 09:09:54 · answer #5 · answered by ReeRee 6 · 0 0

The word "trinity" is a term used to denote the Christian doctrine that God exists as a unity of three distinct persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Each of the persons is distinct from the other, yet identical in essence. In other words, each is fully divine in nature, but each is not the totality of the Trinity. Each has a will, loves, and says "I", and "You" when speaking. The Father is not the same person as the Son who is not the same person as the Holy Spirit who is not the same person as the Father. Each is divine, yet there are not three gods, but one God. There are three individual subsistences, or persons. The word "subsistence" means something that has a real existence. The word "person" denotes individuality and self awareness. The Trinity is three of these, though the latter term has become the dominant one used to describe the individual aspects of God known as the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Included in the doctrine of the Trinity is a strict monotheism which is the teaching that there exists in all the universe a single being known as God who is self-existent and unchangeable (Isaiah 43:10; 44:6,8). Therefore, it is important to note that the doctrine of the trinity is not polytheistic as some of its critics proclaim. Trinitarianism is monotheistic by definition and those who claim it is polytheistic demonstrate a lack of understanding of what it really is.

The Trinity
God is three persons
Each person is divine
There is only one God.
Many theologians admit that the term "person" is not a perfect word to describe the three individual aspects/foci found in God. When we normally use the word person, we understand it to mean physical individuals who exist as separate beings from other individuals. But in God there are not three entities, nor three beings. God, is a trinity of persons consisting of one substance and one essence. God is numerically one. Yet, within the single divine essence are three individual subsistences that we call persons.

Each of the three persons is completely divine in nature though each is not the totality of the Godhead.
Each of the three persons is not the other two persons.
Each of the three persons is related to the other two, but are distinct from them.
The word "trinity" is not found in the Bible. But this does not mean that the concept is not taught there. The word "bible" is not found in the Bible either, but we use it anyway. Likewise, the words "omniscience," which means "all knowing," "omnipotence," which means "all powerful," and "omnipresence," which means "present everywhere," are not found in the Bible either. But we use these words to describe the attributes of God. So, to say that the Trinity isn't true because the word isn't in the Bible is an invalid argument.

Is there subordination in the Trinity?

There is, apparently, a subordination within the Trinity in regard to order but not substance or essence. We can see that the Father is first, the Son is second, and the Holy Spirit is third. The Father is not begotten, but the Son is (John 3:16). The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father (John 5:26). The Father sent the Son (1 John 4:10). The Son and the Father send the Holy Spirit (John 14:26; 15:26). The Father creates (Isaiah 44:24), the Son redeems (Gal. 3:13), and the Holy Spirit sanctifies (Rom. 15:16).
This subordination of order does not mean that each of the members of the Godhead are not equal or divine. For example, we see that the Father sent the Son. But this does not mean that the Son is not equal to the Father in essence and divine nature. A wife is to be subject to her husband but this does not negate her humanity, essence, or equality. By further analogy, a king and his servant both share human nature. Yet, the king sends the servant to do his will. Jesus said, "For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me" (John 6:38). Does this mean that the one sent must, therefore, be of different nature than the one who sent him? Of course not.
Critics of the Trinity will see this subordination as proof that the Trinity is false. They reason that if Jesus were truly God, then He would be completely equal to God the Father in all areas and would not, therefore, be subordinate to the Father in any way. But this objection is not logical. If we look at the analogy of the king and in the servant we certainly would not say that the servant was not human because he was sent. Being sent does not negate sameness in essence. Therefore, the fact that the Son is sent does not mean that He is not divine any more than when my wife sends me to get bread, I am not human.
Is this confusing?

Another important point about the Trinity is that it can be a difficult concept to grasp. But this does not necessitate an argument against its validity. On the contrary, the fact that it is difficult is an argument for its truth. The Bible is the self revelation of an infinite God. Therefore, we are bound to encounter concepts which are difficult to understand -- especially when dealing with an incomprehensible God who exists in all places at all times. So, when we view descriptions and attributes of God manifested in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, we discover that a completely comprehensible and understandable explanation of God's essence and nature is not possible. What we have, however, done is derive from the Scripture the truths that we can grasp and combine them into the doctrine we call The Trinity. The Trinity is, to a large extent, a mystery. After all, we are dealing with God Himself.
It is the way of the cults to reduce biblical truth to make God comprehensible and understandable by their minds. To this end, they subject God's word to their own reasoning and end in error. The following verses are often used to demonstrate that in the doctrine of the Trinity is indeed biblical.
Matt. 28:18, Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit,
1 Cor. 12:4-6, Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5And there are varieties of ministries, and the same Lord. 6And there are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all persons.
2 Cor. 13:14, The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all.
Eph. 4:4-7, There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all. 7But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ’s gift.
1 Pet. 1:2, "according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, that you may obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood: May grace and peace be yours in fullest measure."
Jude 20-21, "But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith; praying in the Holy Spirit; 21keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life."

2006-12-11 09:14:47 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

I was created in the image of God. What do you think?

2006-12-11 09:09:19 · answer #7 · answered by Fish <>< 7 · 0 0

I have 5 parts. So i win!

2006-12-11 09:21:59 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Well, I used to have singular, but switched to Boost Mobile.

2006-12-11 09:15:23 · answer #9 · answered by Illegals Are S*** 3 · 1 0

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