My uncle he tried to put me into that **** and because i refused he kicked me out of the house. As a revenge i want to do this. But does it really worth it or am i gonna get into bigger trouble? I'm Christiane Orthodox living in London, I know i have to respect the differences between my beliefs and the others around me. But why they don't respect mine?
2006-12-10 09:07:37 · 19 answers · asked by VenenoUK 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
There are good spirituals forces and bad spirituals forces in the universe and planet earth.If you are a Christian,stay there,do not cross the line with others spirituals forces.Be happy in what you believe.Revenge again spirituals forces or spirituals beings,never will be a smart idea to do.Let your uncle alone,and live you a happy and blessing future life.God bless you and protect of evil spirits.Good question.
2006-12-10 09:43:08 · answer #1 · answered by cobrasnake 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
OK, I am a member of an esoteric Order of Freemasons, probably as esoteric or more so than your uncle. The secrets that are revealed as far as passwords, grips, signs and tokens are somewhat already published abroad. I say "somewhat" because Orders change theirs. Sorry, Internet buffs who are referencing Duncan's Ritual.
Those are secrets that are truly NOT secrets and are conveyed in a place from where no light comes anyway.
The real secret of Freemasonry is that of the alchemy it works: it helps the practioner change the lead (of his or her heart) into gold. I know that will not mean much to you right now. Wait on it, and see if in a few years it makes sense.
Right now you are angry, and probably with good reason, at your uncle. Your uncle is a Freemason (probably masculine-only rite). Do not associate all Masons with your uncle. Understand that there are other Orders; some of us even admit women. Even within the Order your uncle belongs, there are most probably good and trusted men.
If your uncle is trying to force you to join Freemasonry, that is absolutely forbidden, no matter what the Order. If you talk to the Master of the Lodge, that could well help resolve matters. Then again, you may not trust anybody there. I understand that.
Revealing anything told you in trust (as long as it is not something against the law) does not improve your own situation. Rather it marks you as one not to be trusted. Remember the stories of those who turned traitor; they were not trusted by those to whom they defected.
Nothing dire will happen to you from the Freemasons. They do not do such. They don't need the bad publicity. They have no secrets that you could reveal that would hurt them.
My suggestion, get on with your life. And if you wish someday to investigate it, there is an Order, Co-Masonry, that may well be something you like. For right now, living well is the best revenge.
Best of luck,
A Master Mason
American Co-Masonry
2006-12-12 02:32:14 · answer #2 · answered by NeoArt 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
On the petition, under the question "why do you want to become a Mason", you would either write down revenge, or you would lie.
If you write down revenge, you will not get in. If you lie, you have broken your oath to God. So the question really boils down to: are you so spiteful that you would defy your God just to get revenge on somebody where you have nothing to gain?
No great undertaking should ever be started without first envoking the blessings of Diety. Joining the Masons would be a great undertaking, so I would not feel right about lying before asking for God's blessing.
With respect, you give and you take. How much have you taken? Since you want revenge, then how much have you given?
Nothing will happen to you by "revealing any secrets", because you are not a Mason. "Secrets" have not been revealed to you, and you have no obligation to conceil them, so you have no worries mate.
2006-12-10 18:22:19 · answer #3 · answered by tristan-adams 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
A Mans right to kick you out of his house is his right. Sounds to me like not joining the lodge was not the only thing fueling this. True many secrets have been published, and Masonry as a secret society has pretty much been ruined, as a way of life it is still a great way to live. It is not satan worshipping, or going around killing people, but it is very influential througout history. Look at the American revolution. It is sad that Masons today are not what they were at one time. It will take desperation and tragedy to make them once again willing to stand up and change the world.
2006-12-12 18:54:12 · answer #4 · answered by Thin Ice 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I read a book on Freemasonry written by an ex-Freemason. _ He had left when he discovered the secret that only the top three or so levels know (and there are 33 levels in Freemasonry).
As they ascend the levels they are given a bit more information. The first three levels are the initiation levels which mimic birth, death and resurrection. During these three levels they learn that if they tell the secrets they will hung, run through, their tongue cut out (in fact killed in the manor that the original Jack the Ripper murdered his victims) - gory stuff.
Through the levels they do not have to believe in God as such but in a higher entity - The divine architect.
The man in the book stated that the secret at the top level was that the entity they worshipped was Satan.
2006-12-10 09:22:30 · answer #5 · answered by nettyone2003 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
There's not much about the Masons that's not common knowledge. If they want to play games, let them. You stick to your own beliefs. Don't look for revenge, it will only get you into more trouble. Don't worry about the blood oaths. The last time they were carried out was in the 18th century and the Master was hanged for it.
2006-12-10 09:17:24 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well for a start I doubt that you know anything too harsh and damaging about the Masons so I doubt they'd care too much. Also if you search hard enough you can find many of their secrets already posted on the web xxxx
2006-12-10 09:11:35 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
I assume thet you are not in the Craft since you would know that the "secrets" are all to do with personal honour. If your uncle is a Freemason and revealed words and signs to you then it tells a lot about his sense of honour, but these are not secrets.
2006-12-10 09:17:20 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
until you actually join a Masonic Lodge and take the Degrees you have not nor ever will be considered a Mason. you may think you know what the Masonic Fraternity is all about but you will never know the " real " secrets until you take the Degrees.
2006-12-10 09:19:53 · answer #9 · answered by Marvin R 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Why do you find it necessary to tell untruths? Unless and until you voluntarily joined and were accepted into the Masons, you would not be told any of the Masonic secrets. May I remind you that lying is not an admirable trait, whether one is Christian or not?
2006-12-10 09:11:07 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋