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Question

What scriptural evidence do you have to believe Jesus was actually the archangel, Michael?

Naughty pants...what about the archangel Gabriel?

smoke..it was not a question designed to cast aspersions on their beliefs, simply to figure out where that particular one was found.

Answer 1

(Mi′cha·el) [Who Is Like God?].

1. The only holy angel other than Gabriel named in the Bible, and the only one called “archangel.” (Jude 9) The first occurrence of the name is in the tenth chapter of Daniel, where Michael is described as “one of the foremost princes”; he came to the aid of a lesser angel who was opposed by “the prince of the royal realm of Persia.” Michael was called “the prince of [Daniel’s] people,” “the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of [Daniel’s] people.” (Da 10:13, 20, 21; 12:1) This points to Michael as the angel who led the Israelites through the wilderness. (Ex 23:20, 21, 23; 32:34; 33:2) Lending support to this conclusion is the fact that “Michael the archangel had a difference with the Devil and was disputing about Moses’ body.”—Jude 9.

Scriptural evidence indicates that the name Michael applied to God’s Son before he left heaven to become Jesus Christ and also after his return. Michael is the only one said to be “the archangel,” meaning “chief angel,” or “principal angel.” The term occurs in the Bible only in the singular. This seems to imply that there is but one whom God has designated chief, or head, of the angelic host. At 1 Thessalonians 4:16 the voice of the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ is described as being that of an archangel, suggesting that he is, in fact, himself the archangel. This text depicts him as descending from heaven with “a commanding call.” It is only logical, therefore, that the voice expressing this commanding call be described by a word that would not diminish or detract from the great authority that Christ Jesus now has as King of kings and Lord of lords. (Mt 28:18; Re 17:14) If the designation “archangel” applied, not to Jesus Christ, but to other angels, then the reference to “an archangel’s voice” would not be appropriate. In that case it would be describing a voice of lesser authority than that of the Son of God.

There are also other correspondencies establishing that Michael is actually the Son of God. Daniel, after making the first reference to Michael (Da 10:13), recorded a prophecy reaching down to “the time of the end” (Da 11:40) and then stated: “And during that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of [Daniel’s] people.” (Da 12:1) Michael’s ‘standing up’ was to be associated with “a time of distress such as has not been made to occur since there came to be a nation until that time.” (Da 12:1) In Daniel’s prophecy, ‘standing up’ frequently refers to the action of a king, either taking up his royal power or acting effectively in his capacity as king. (Da 11:2-4, 7, 16b, 20, 21) This supports the conclusion that Michael is Jesus Christ, since Jesus is Jehovah’s appointed King, commissioned to destroy all the nations at Har–Magedon.—Re 11:15; 16:14-16.

The book of Revelation (12:7, 10, 12) specifically mentions Michael in connection with the establishment of God’s Kingdom and links this event with trouble for the earth: “And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled. And I heard a loud voice in heaven say: ‘Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down . . . On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea.’” Jesus Christ is later depicted as leading the heavenly armies in war against the nations of the earth. (Re 19:11-16) This would mean a period of distress for them, which would logically be included in the “time of distress” that is associated with Michael’s standing up. (Da 12:1) Since the Son of God is to fight the nations, it is only reasonable that he was the one who with his angels earlier battled against the superhuman dragon, Satan the Devil, and his angels.

In his prehuman existence Jesus was called “the Word.” (Joh 1:1) He also had the personal name Michael. By retaining the name Jesus after his resurrection (Ac 9:5), “the Word” shows that he is identical with the Son of God on earth. His resuming his heavenly name Michael and his title (or name) “The Word of God” (Re 19:13) ties him in with his prehuman existence. The very name Michael, asking as it does, “Who Is Like God?” points to the fact that Jehovah God is without like, or equal, and that Michael his archangel is his great Champion or Vindicator

This is the exact statement from the JW insight book. Although I'm no longer a JW due to the many reasons that you will find at wikipedia under history of Jehovah's Witnesses, this actually makes a lot of sense. Christian Love, Bill. By the way, any reasonable person will avoid the Witnesses at all costs.

Answer 2

First you have to understand that those who deny this believe in the trinity. I am not proclaiming to be religious, however I did research of my own a while back, regarding the concept of a triune God-Yet the one poster made the statement that the jw's were false profits, when he believes in this bogus, unscriptural concept. And he gave no scriptural support!!!! However regarding scriptual evidence concerning your question I think you got it.

Answer 3

Very good question. I am standing in the middle. Been studying a lot about JW and almost became one. Except I found out that they are not witnessing properly according to the Word of God but the words of their founders.
Michael was mentioned by Gabriel in the book of Daniel and again in the book of Jude. But some people who claimed to be the true witnesses of God or Jehovah misunderstood that text.
Michael in Hebrews means, Prince of God. Jesus is the only one who is the Prince of God, He is the Only Son of God, the King of the Universe, so that makes Him the Prince of God!
He is called "the Archangel", meaning the commander of all the angels. When Jesus appeared to Joshua before the battle of Jericho, He introduced Himself as the Commander of the Lord's Host, or Army. We are also referred to in the Bible as belonging to the Lord's army fighting against the host of darkness under the command of Lucifer. So besides the Commander of the angels, Jesus is also our Commander.
Then the Bible says that the voice of the Archangel will be heard by the people who are dead and they will be resurrected. No angel have the power to resurrect the dead only He who is the Creator.
He is the Great I Am, YHWH, the Creator, the Word and The Way and the Life. He is not just a created being as the Jehovah Witnesses falsely witnessed, but God Himself made audible and visible, He came down to became man, but return to heaven to resume His former glory and will come back again as God, not just a created being.

Answer 4

I am not a JW but I know someone who is and they do believe that.

Answer 5

Jesus is a fictional character.
Look at the length of his ministry, a few weeks, yet he traveled extensively, far too extensively to have gone as claimed by foot and donkey (look at the locations and timings of his miracles). He also spent part of his ministry in the desert. He is a Robin Hood Character, an amalgamation of events (in this case rerunning old testament miracles). This has been extensively researched, but as usual why believe something you don't like. A goodly portion of mankind seem to need a Jesus or Mohamed (at least he is a real historically documented person) type of interface to make the God concept real to them. ( I cant have real communication with God but i know a man who can).
Now this is where the mish mash of unrelated writings that comprise the bible gets interesting.
Angels, Archangels, Seraphim's, cherubims, demons devils and even the Djinn (Islamic) seem to refer to other creatures in other times. Maybe old races of man, there are certainly lots of dead branches on the human ancestral tree. After a few thousand years of story telling with the usual embellishing, extending, and inventing. We get left with some quasi religious interpretation molded onto a now mythical retelling of what were once true events.
Example :- We know that in the old testament there are references to a race of giants who lived before the "flood".

The following, bracketed[ ], is taken from the Wikipedia entry for Nephilim:-

[In the Torah and several non-canonical Jewish and early Christian writings, nephilim (Hebrew, הנּפלים, those causing others to fall) are a people created by the crossbreeding of the sons of God (b'nei elohim, בני האלהים) and the "daughters of men". The word nephilim is loosely translated as giants or titans in some translations of the Bible, and is left as nephilim in others:

When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. Then the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years." The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.]

There is extensive evidence that there have been several groups of very tall humans living on earth in ancient times, even today we have men who grow to what the average man would deem giant status. Robert Wadlow of Alton, IL (who was just under 9ft tall) died in 1940.
So an old tale of a group of marauding giants kicking crap out of the locals and raping women, after a few thousand years of retelling they become fire breathing demigods ..Get the drift..............(have you seen how tiny the North Koreans are? Imagine how they would look at a a basketball team)

So we have the possibility of a fictional character (Jesus) been confused with a possible leader / warlord from prehistory ( Michael).
Considering the bible is a collection of writings through the ages from a multitude of sources, many twisted from the original time and again to suit the ideology of the day. (A read through Scott Bidstrup's essay ' The Bible And Christianity - The Historical Origins' Gives an historical account of it's compilation). There is no doubt that a devoted theological student will find something proving that Jesus is in fact the earthly avatar of the Archangel Michael.
My father is a JW and my Mother a Seventh Day Adventist (I know! don't try to think about it). Both their churches believe this, but as no 2 people can ever agree on exactly what the Bible says.
Why bother asking?

Answer 6

MICHAEL

(Mi´cha·el) [Who Is Like God?].

1. The only holy angel other than Gabriel named in the Bible, and the only one called “archangel.” (Jude 9) The first occurrence of the name is in the tenth chapter of Daniel, where Michael is described as “one of the foremost princes”; he came to the aid of a lesser angel who was opposed by “the prince of the royal realm of Persia.” Michael was called “the prince of [Daniel’s] people,” “the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of [Daniel’s] people.” (Da 10:13, 20, 21; 12:1) This points to Michael as the angel who led the Israelites through the wilderness. (Ex 23:20, 21, 23; 32:34; 33:2) Lending support to this conclusion is the fact that “Michael the archangel had a difference with the Devil and was disputing about Moses’ body.”—Jude 9.

Scriptural evidence indicates that the name Michael applied to God’s Son before he left heaven to become Jesus Christ and also after his return. Michael is the only one said to be “the archangel,” meaning “chief angel,” or “principal angel.” The term occurs in the Bible only in the singular. This seems to imply that there is but one whom God has designated chief, or head, of the angelic host. At 1 Thessalonians 4:16 the voice of the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ is described as being that of an archangel, suggesting that he is, in fact, himself the archangel. This text depicts him as descending from heaven with “a commanding call.” It is only logical, therefore, that the voice expressing this commanding call be described by a word that would not diminish or detract from the great authority that Christ Jesus now has as King of kings and Lord of lords. (Mt 28:18; Re 17:14) If the designation “archangel” applied, not to Jesus Christ, but to other angels, then the reference to “an archangel’s voice” would not be appropriate. In that case it would be describing a voice of lesser authority than that of the Son of God.

There are also other correspondencies establishing that Michael is actually the Son of God. Daniel, after making the first reference to Michael (Da 10:13), recorded a prophecy reaching down to “the time of the end” (Da 11:40) and then stated: “And during that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of [Daniel’s] people.” (Da 12:1) Michael’s ‘standing up’ was to be associated with “a time of distress such as has not been made to occur since there came to be a nation until that time.” (Da 12:1) In Daniel’s prophecy, ‘standing up’ frequently refers to the action of a king, either taking up his royal power or acting effectively in his capacity as king. (Da 11:2-4, 7, 16b, 20, 21) This supports the conclusion that Michael is Jesus Christ, since Jesus is Jehovah’s appointed King, commissioned to destroy all the nations at Har–Magedon.—Re 11:15; 16:14-16.

The book of Revelation (12:7, 10, 12) specifically mentions Michael in connection with the establishment of God’s Kingdom and links this event with trouble for the earth: “And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled. And I heard a loud voice in heaven say: ‘Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down . . . On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea.’” Jesus Christ is later depicted as leading the heavenly armies in war against the nations of the earth. (Re 19:11-16) This would mean a period of distress for them, which would logically be included in the “time of distress” that is associated with Michael’s standing up. (Da 12:1) Since the Son of God is to fight the nations, it is only reasonable that he was the one who with his angels earlier battled against the superhuman dragon, Satan the Devil, and his angels.

In his prehuman existence Jesus was called “the Word.” (Joh 1:1) He also had the personal name Michael. By retaining the name Jesus after his resurrection (Ac 9:5), “the Word” shows that he is identical with the Son of God on earth. His resuming his heavenly name Michael and his title (or name) “The Word of God” (Re 19:13) ties him in with his prehuman existence. The very name Michael, asking as it does, “Who Is Like God?” points to the fact that Jehovah God is without like, or equal, and that Michael his archangel is his great Champion or Vindicator.

Answer 7

In the Greek Scriptures, everytime the archangel is referred to ,Christ is in the same context. Please note:

Rev. 12:
7 And war broke out in heaven: Mi´cha·el and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. 9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
(If you now note after the defeat of Satan, Christ has cleaned the heavenly Kingdom of he and his demons.)
“Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God.

Repeating on vs. 7 it says Michael and HIS angels, now if we cross reference, there is no one else except for ,Jehovah God that mention of "and his angels, his spirits, his spirit creatures-& Jehovah of armies(angels)---except for Christ as the Son of God-having been given authority by Jehovah-over the angels(1 Corinth. 15:27,28)

This is shown especially at Rev. 19:11-16

The Rider on a White Horse
11 Then I saw heaven opened, (P) and there was a white horse! Its rider is called Faithful and True, (Q) and in righteousness He judges and makes war. (R) 12 His eyes were like a fiery flame, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knows except Himself. (S) 13 He wore a robe stained with blood, (T) [i] and His name is called the Word of God. (U) 14 The ARMIES(MY ENTRY) that were in heaven followed Him on white horses, wearing pure white linen. 15 From His mouth came a sharp [j] sword, (V) so that with it He might strike the nations. (W) He will shepherd [k] them with an iron scepter. (X) He will also trample the winepress of the fierce anger of God, (Y) the Almighty. 16 And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS (Z)
*
Who is the Word of God, Christ Jesus?

Who is the rider of the white horse please note:

1 Then I saw [a] the Lamb open one of the seven [b] seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures say with a voice like thunder, "Come!" [c] [d] 2 I looked, and there was a white horse. (A) The horseman on it had a bow; a crown was given to him, and he went out as a victor to conquer. [e]"--

Christ is the foremost rider of the 4 horseman and he alone conquers, & his ride is not symbolic like the 3 other horsemen.

Note please the breakdown in Jude 8,9--
"But when Mi´cha·el the archangel had a difference with the Devil and was disputing about Moses’ body, he did not dare to bring a judgment against him in abusive terms, but said: “May Jehovah rebuke you.” 10 Yet these [men] are speaking abusively of all the things they really do not know; but all the things that they do understand naturally like the unreasoning animals, in these things they go on corrupting themselves.

Jude 20-27 As for YOU, beloved ones, call to 20 But YOU, beloved ones, by building up yourselves on YOUR most holy faith, and praying with holy spirit, 21 keep yourselves in God’s love, while YOU are waiting for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ with everlasting life in view. 22 Also, continue showing mercy to some that have doubts; 23 save [them] by snatching [them] out of the fire. But continue showing mercy to others, doing so with fear, while YOU hate even the inner garment that has been stained by the flesh.
24 Now to the one who is able to guard YOU from stumbling and to set YOU unblemished in the sight of his glory with great joy, 25 to [the] only God our Savior through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, might and authority for all past eternity and now and into all eternity. Amen.

1 Thess.4:
14 "Since we believe that Jesus died and rose (M) again, (N) in the same way God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep through [f] Jesus. (O) [g] 15 For we say this to you by a revelation from the Lord: (P) [h] We who are still alive at the Lord's coming (Q) will certainly have no advantage over [i] those who have fallen asleep. (R) 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, (S) [j] with the archangel's (T) voice, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ (U) will rise first. "

*Please note that Jesus is spoken of having the voice of the archangel.

At Daniel 10:--please note what Michael is referred to
20 He said, "Do you know why I've come to you? I must return at once to fight against the prince of Persia, and when I leave, the prince of Greece will come. (AL) 21 No one has the courage to support me against them except Michael, (AM) your prince. However, I will tell you what is recorded in the book of truth.

Jesus who is the Prince of Peace, would easily standout foremost over any other of God's princes.

Note also who stands up for God's people:

Daniel 12
1 At that time
Michael (A) the great prince
who stands watch over your people will rise up.
There will be a time of distress (B)
such as never has occurred (C)
since nations came into being until that time. D)

If we compare once again Rev. 12:7,10 once again the dominant person involved as Michael is indeed Christ.--No other person is mentioned along with Michael, but Christ Jesus.

Putting aside arguements for & against the trinity, and for and against Jehovah God--just letting the context of the Scriptures for the proof, I do not see, who else it could be--I had been a Greek Orthodox, Sunday School Teacher and am a Witness for Jehovah God & his Son for the past 40 years, I love the Bible and it alone makes clear all things. One thing about truth--it never contradicts itself.

Answer 8

There is none.