Jesus said, we are Gods? Gospel of John seems very Gnostic?

Question

My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[d]; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are one."Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?"

"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods'[e]? If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken— what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world?"

Why is it so hard for Christians to envision that they have a divine self, and jesus said he was set apart to do these things, in no ways deminishes our higher soul's diivinity. Jesus says we are divine to here, why argue with him. We may not be define but our soul self seems to by jesus words. This is very gnostic

I disagree about the ruler comment. Jesus clearly made that statement to show the contradiction in the words of people there when the scriptures say we are all gods (God), I mean that was his point OMG.. Besides he is referencing 82th Pslams, "God presides in the great assembly;he gives judgment among the gods: How long will you [a] defend the unjust and show partiality to the wicked?Selah Defend the cause of the weak and fatherless; maintain the rights of the poor and oppressed. Rescue the weak and needy;deliver them from the hand of the wicked They know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' But you will die like mere men; you will fall like every other ruler."

I don't buy it, it clearly refers to something else, people of the world are still men, he calls them gods then refers to them as his actual sons which is why jesus mentions it. Divine beings.

"When the first century Christian Justin Martyr quoted the 82nd chapter of Psalms from his scriptures, the sacred writings that he used did not read as ours does today. “God standeth in the congregation of gods”, Justin wrote, I said, Ye are gods, and are all children of the Most High...” (Dialogue of Justin). this verse is also found translated in this same manner in the works of Tertullian, Origen and Cyprian. Thus, we have the witness of four of the earliest of Christians that “God standeth in the congregation of gods”, when the scriptures are speaking about us.Justin then goes on to explain that all men were made like God, “free from suffering and death, provided that they kept His commandments, and were deemed deserving of the name of His sons, and yet they, becoming like Adam and Eve, work out death for themselves... thereby it is demonstrated that all men are deemed worthy of becoming ‘gods’, and of having power to become sons of the Highest" - quoted.

After I do more study, I see more and more how different it was. The problem that exist now is that the concept of the pre-existent soul seems lost. The Pre-Nicene fathers and many Pre-nicene Christian writers all talk about us having a divine self, a soul self. God do a search, all of them Talk about the divine soul slef and how we can KNOW God by knowing this divine self - since it is the offsring, or that part of ourselves made in God's imagine. That this is rejected now is of no surprise. It's pretty sad how much people don't know about their own religons past before such concepts BY Emperors like Justine and his prosetute wife deemed them unfit having no business with those those things, many of which forced by the sword to give this up.

Answer 1

I'll state that I'm not a Christian, but something I was reading elsewhere today prompted me to realize that John is probably my favorite book in the Bible. It is beautiful, mystical, spiritual, and yes, a good bit Gnostic, in a way none of the rest of the Bible is.

Answer 2

It's obviously now not a Gnostic Jesus. John a million offered Jesus as coming within the flesh, a tremendous no-no for the Gnostics who had been Docetics. It is a certain Gospel. It used to be written so much later and displays one of the theological matters and the sitz im leben of the Johannine neighborhood. Unlike the synoptic Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke) which, in side depended on Q, John appears to be greatly impartial besides for having its possess outside supply, the so-referred to as Signs Gospel. A intriguing paintings, however.

Answer 3

The Bible often uses the term god for humans acting as God's representatives on Earth.

Note that it always uses a small letter "g" in this context.

You must read all of the Bible and all of the context surrounding a single line in a passage to understand the full meaning of these terms.

Taking a single sentence out of the Bible and making a whole new religion out of it is dangerous!