shouldnt burden of proof lie on christians instead of everyone else?

Question

for example, saying that jesus was born of a virgin. shouldnt it be considered a myth thats believed to be true until its proven fact instead of the opposite?

"Yes.
and virgins are giving birth nowadays, sperm donors are making it possible. "

so that means they went to a sperm donor 2000 years ago?

Answer 1

There are many things that can not be proven that does not mean they don't exist or never happened.

Such as the origins of life and the universe...

Quarks and other sub atomic particles...

And what about the "String Theory", much of that can not be proven....

Answer 2

It can be analogized to someone saying Bigfoot exists, or Aliens visited the earth, or the Lochness Monster swam not two feet in front of them. Many many people would not believe the assertion, the burden to prove what was seen falls upon the person making the assertion of existence. And even with all the supposed pictures of flying saucers, and videos and pictures of both Big Foot and the Loch-ness, and the hundreds if not thousands of eye witnesses, that burden of proof has not been met. Someone walks up to you and says they know Bigfoot is real, but never seen him, is as assertion of faith. They have no proof, yet the desire for existence supercedes human skepticism is such cases. The same of the existence of a particular god. There is no way to prove in the existence of a god, so everyone who believes in a god is an assertion of faith. Tack on rewards for obediance, and punishments for disobediance, and the desire to have that faith elevates to a level from such, both fear and hope, with which many people find impossible to shed. Burden of proof lay with proving the world was round, and not flat. Burden of proof layed with proving that the earth orbited the sun instead of the earth being the center of the universe. Burden of proof that the supernatural exists, must always lie with those making the assertion of existence.

Answer 3

Here is where it gets sticky: God revealed Himself to us in the Holy Bible. The Holy Bible is usually rejected by atheists and agnostics because they do not believe it is the inerrant and infallible word of God. No, it wasn't written by men. It was written by God; He used men as His "writing instruments". No, there are not many different versions; only the same version in many different languages. The more I study the Bible, the more I am sure it is supernatural. You say that you want proof, but reject the proof that is in front of you.

When Jesus Christ came, his life fully matched over 300 specific predictions in the Old Testament. The prophet Micah predicted the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem. Isaiah foretold his miraculous birth, that a virgin would conceive. The prophet Zechariah foretold his entry into Jerusalem on a donkey and his betrayal for 30 pieces of silver by one of his followers. Isaiah described that "The Lord's anointed will preach the good news to the poor, bind up the brokenhearted..." The prophet David foretold the Messiah's hands and feet would be pierced and the soldiers would cast lots for his clothing.

Jesus perfectly fulfilled all 300 Old Testament predictions! The odds of any other person fulfilling even 8 of those predictions are 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000.

Answer 4

Brilliantly worded question.
Absolutely. When most people (and I am guilty of this myself, just not religiously) feel the need to prove or defend themselves they will point to whatever is available - fiction or not. It's like this for me - a 2,006 year-old book written by apostles is one thing; that it was written as the word of "God" is absolutely unbelievable. Cannot believe it. Mmm mmm. No, sir. However (and this is a big however;), from reading these boards I have learned that regardless of religion, a number of people are quite intelligent and compassionate. It is refreshing to know. They are, as always, in the minority, but more than that they completely make up for those who respond without thought or regard for others.
Anyhoo, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Isn't that what our justice system does? Or is supposed to do? Innocent until proven guilty. Religious belief is not in alignment with scientific fact. This does not mean spirituality (a higher energy) doesn't exist. I believe it is within and around all of us and we utilize it in how we treat others and ourselves. It is there in our love, our empathy, our kindness, and each time we realize the strength of it within ourselves we go a step farther in saving humankind. Christian, Muslim, Jew, Agnostic, Atheist, South Parker. I don't care. I believe in the soul as what we choose to do with our lives and how much we give, and I know nothing else about where we came from or where we go or what happens to us. I just hope people will stop using religion to justify violence and doing harm to others.
All the best =)

Answer 5

From your mouth to... well, you know. Unfortunately, to try to impose logic, factual impossibilities and proven historical evidence of "creation" on those "true believers" is an effort in futility that, if measured, would reach the stars. In other words...ain't no way it's ever gonna happen, man. Their proof is their faith. Faith is what makes the impossible, possible. Faith can explain the unexplainable, which is basically what gave "MAN" the first conception of an almighty being. Or God. MAN'S need to expain what they could not comprehend is the foundation of religion. By definition, it will never follow logic or reason. It doesn't have to. How convenient for them. How unbelievably frustrating, aggravating, irritating, often nauseating and quite possibly, exascerbating for us. There is no way to win the argument. Ironically, it is the "faith" that we have in ourselves, that allows us to tolerate the ignorance of others. (No offense to religion in general) The premise of religion is a positive thing. The nature of MAN will never allow it to realize its potential. As far as logic and religion are concerned. There is no way in the world that one would or could ever be confused with the other.

Answer 6

Of course the burden is on the Christians, however, you are dealing with a matter of faith - so the bigger question is do you believe that Jesus is who he says he is...the Son of God AND one and the same with God. Once you answer this question 95% of the questions in the Bible fall in place.

Answer 7

Yes.


and virgins are giving birth nowadays, sperm donors are making it possible.

Answer 8

Absolutely. It is perceived that beliefs in Christianity are facts and that others need proof to believe otherwise. It should be the other way round, no doubt.

Answer 9

Christianity is not based on provable fact. The biblical text that is most enlightening is "...by grace are you saved through faith..."

This is one of the core teachings. You must believe to attain "salvation". They don't provide "proof" to each other, so how cold they possibly provide proof to anyone else?

By the way, most if not all religions are unprovable and based in legend lore or word of mouth.

Answer 10

It is good to see a self proclaimed Agnostic asking questions about Christianity