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'Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "Allah is the Messiah ['Iesa (Jesus)], son of Maryam (Mary)." But the Messiah ['Iesa (Jesus)] said: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Verily, whosoever sets up partners in worship with Allah, then Allah has forbidden Paradise for him, and the Fire will be his abode. And for the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong­doers) there are no helpers.' (Qur'an 5:72)

'Surely, disbelievers are those who said: "Allah is the third of the three (in a Trinity)." But there is no ilah (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but One Ilah (God -Allah). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall the disbelievers among them.' (Qur'an 5:73)

2006-12-09 15:33:34 · 22 answers · asked by hello 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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That is a loaded question; the prophets of old did preach about the trinity. Consider Isaiah 9:6 -

"For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."

It is very obvious this is a verse addressing the birth of Christ - a child, a son, the Son of God. The names which He is called in this verse heavily suggest the Trinity; the Counselor is a name attached to the Holy Spirit as well - consider John 14:16, 14:26, 15:26, and John 16:7. The function the Holy Spirit takes on is the task of Wonderful Counselor, who comforts the Christian He indwells. Jesus Christ is then called Mighty God, who could be no other than the Lord - Yahweh. He is the Everlasting Father, predicting Christ's statement about the Father and Him being one. He is the Prince of Peace; this is a Messianic title, thus how we know this is a verse describing the Christ.

May Christ bless you, for if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead in three days, you shall be saved. For God has set a time of judgment where He shall judge all based on what they have done with His gift - the gift of Christ.

2006-12-09 15:53:16 · answer #1 · answered by Soga 4 · 0 1

I don't believe in the trinity as well.
When in Genesis it is written as "The Spirit of G-d" it doesn't mean to reference the holy spirit that people feel is a white dove. If you think about it, G-d HAS NO bodily form. He is nothing like humans can ever understand.
He has no spirit, but IS the ultimate spirit of all in the universe. If G-d is already a Spirit, why would he need another spirit (like the holy spirit) to be in a trinity with him.?
Plus needless to mention that the Christian bible is full of mistranslations.

Here is what Wikipedia has written about "the holy spirit" in Judaic scriptures:

"The designation of the third person of the Trinity, the Holy Ghost, stems from a Hebrew figure of speech, the ruah hakodesh ("holy spirit"). In Jewish usage, however, this concept was never identified with a separate person, but with a Divine power which could fill men, as, for instance, the prophets." ... "Shekhinah In the first verse of the Torah there is the reference to The Spirit hovering over the waters and intimately involved in Creation. Some translate Spirit here "wind" or "Wind".

2006-12-09 15:51:07 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

You are a Muslim, of course you don't believe in the trinity. We are Chrisians we do. Look at the first two verses in the Bible if you don't thinl the OT teaches the trinity.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.
Who was the Spirit of God - Part of the trinity!!! Don't tell us the OTdoesn't teach the trinity there it is right from the start.

Try Psalm 2 6 "But as for Me, I have installed My King Upon Zion, My holy mountain." 7 "I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD: He said to Me, `You are My Son, Today I have begotten You. 8 `Ask of Me, and I will surely give the nations as Your inheritance, And the very ends of the earth as Your possession. 9 `You shall break them with a rod of iron, You shall shatter them like earthenware.' " 10 Now therefore, O kings, show discernment; Take warning, O judges of the earth. 11 Worship the LORD with reverence And rejoice with trembling. 12 Do homage to the Son, that He not become angry, and you perish in the way, For His wrath may soon be kindled. How blessed are all who take refuge in Him!
Who is the Son? I would encourage you to stick with your own religion and believe what you want but don't tell christians what they believe.

2006-12-09 15:43:34 · answer #3 · answered by oldguy63 7 · 0 2

There is no such thing as a Trinity. For the concept to be true requires three things...God, Jesus and a third party called by the Bible, the Holy Spirit. The Catholic religion has changed this to read the Holy Ghost, thus trying to give it a personality.
And they are all Co=equal and Co- powerful.

But the Bible says otherwise. It never call it a ghost. Always Spirit.
It can be 'poured out'..Acts 2;18
It can 'fill' you....Acts 2;4, 4;8,31You can worship 'with it'..John 4;23
If can float like a 'dove'....Matthew 1;10
You can be baptised 'with' it...Note, not BY it, but WITH it....Matthew 1;8
It can be ' put upon' you...Matthew 20;18
It can 'get' in your nostrils...Job 27;3
It can 'come to an end'...Psalm 143;7
That one is a toughie, IF it is co-powerful with God himself????
and (Ecclesiastes 12:7) Then the dust returns to the earth just as it happened to be and the spirit itself returns to the [true] God who gave it.

So after all, it can be 'given' by God, therefore it cannot be co-powerful. And the Bible never gives IT a name and actually calls it "IT".
The truth is...it is God's power, not a third party.
It is by this power that Mary became pregnant with Jesus.
IF it was a co-powerful deity with God, then it committed an immoral act with Mary.
(Matthew 1:20) If not an immoral act, but other means, then it is the Holy Spirit who is Jesus' Father and NOT Almighty God.

"But after he had thought these things over, look! Jehovah’s angel appeared to him in a dream, saying: “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary your wife home, for that which has been begotten in her is by holy spirit."

With Holy Spirit being a force, controlled by God himself, there is NO conundrum.


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2006-12-09 16:58:04 · answer #4 · answered by pugjw9896 7 · 1 1

Basically knowing what trinity means would help with this question.
Just about all the Old Testament major and minor prophets spoke of the coming messiah of "God's people". To name a few:
King David
Isaiah
Daniel
Joel
Zephaniah, etc.

2006-12-09 16:02:12 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

because it became no longer made conscious or familiar to them (previous testomony Prophets) on the time. I gave you Zechariah 4 in yet another question you requested. The Prophet Zechariah wrote down the money owed that befell earlier his eyes with the Angel of the Lord and Zerubbabel, a clergyman. He did not understand how God said us or labored. God printed to him a creative and prescient of a Candlestick (it really is the 7 eyes of God) and both Olive bushes (it really is Jesus, God's Son, and The Holy Spirit of God) it extremely is the Trinity finished. It became no longer familiar then to guy on the instant. God did not search for suggestion from from guy for yet another 400 hundred years earlier the recent testomony became printed and written by the 4 Gospel writers, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, first. The pages of Scripture make it kind of feels that it became written in a unmarried week or a month or possibly a 12 months, even with the undeniable fact that it truly is a blend of writers in countless eras, over a spanned of 1ooo thousand or extra perfect years, writing what The Spirit of God advised them to position in writing (2 Timothy 3:16,17). it truly is encourage by God yet written by guy without mistakes. God knows a thanks to handbook and save certainly anybody from falling and failing to do His will. it extremely is why the Scriptures are repelled and hated so, because we hate God and His perfectness and Holiness! He want us to stroll in uprightness, the way He made or created us interior the starting up, earlier sin got here in. The enemy of our souls (devil/demons) hate God too and His plan to redeem mankind out of sin, destruction and ultimately hell. it isn't person-friendly even with the undeniable fact that it truly is what it truly is, and no you'll replace it! I thank God for revelation to my thoughts and by no skill leaving me interior the darkish about problems with the Spirit international and mans actual condition.

2016-11-25 01:51:56 · answer #6 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Probably because the Son of God had not yet come. It would have been a difficult concept to understand before Jesus came to explain it.

Looking back at the Old Testament, one finds that it isn't contradicted anywhere, thus with the life of Jesus, the old testament writings were able to be confirmed.

Anyway, a fundamentalist preaching Muslim and a fundamentalist preaching Jew, and a fundamentalist preaching Christian are much more of a trinity that I try to avoid. They are one and the same, with the same message: "Believe me because everyone else goes to hell."

2006-12-09 15:39:29 · answer #7 · answered by Deirdre H 7 · 0 3

Because it is a post-Biblical Christian concept. Since the Jews didn't believe in a Trinity, it's not mentioned in the Old Testament.

And before someone brings it up (as they invariably do), the "us" in Genesis is the "royal we", used when kings use "we" instead of "I" to refer to themselves; it has nothing to do with the Trinity.

2006-12-09 15:37:59 · answer #8 · answered by The Doctor 7 · 2 0

Isaiah does. Isaiah 9:6 And you shall call Him ...

Besides that they had some other really important issues to address with the people following false religions and getting in to strife all the time by not living in God's perfect will.

If your trying to convice me as a Christian quoting from the Qur'an won't help although I fully intend to read it when I get a second (not implying it will take me a second) to myself.

2006-12-09 15:55:15 · answer #9 · answered by Abbasangel 5 · 0 2

Psalm 110:1, David. "The Lord said unto my Lord, sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." The Lord speaking to the Lord. The "Spirit of the Lord" is spoken of all through the OT. Isaiah 61:1 "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me..."
The references are there if you look. Read the Bible for your self. Don't take other people's word for it.

2006-12-09 15:52:41 · answer #10 · answered by guitar teacher 3 · 0 1

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