Does anyone think the Bible was altered?Here are some quotes from the Bible to ponder..
Ex. 31:15 "Whoever does any work on the Sabbath should be stoned to death by everyone in his town."
1 Cor.14 "All women must remain silent in church,they are not allowed to speak.If they have a question they are to wait till they return home and ask thier husband.It is a disgraceful act otherwise for a women."
Lev. 25:44 "From the nations around you,you may buy slaves.Since they are your property you may will them as you please."
Numbers 31 "Kill every man among the little ones,kill every women that has known man by lying with him.The young women who have not known man,keep alive for your pleasure."
Loving God?This,along with stories found believed to be missing from the Bible,are why I think it has been tampered with.Beyond just translation mistakes there are many texts found along with a Book from the Bible copied two different ways.
Please give links with your answer for support
2006-12-09
13:09:38
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Here is a site that makes sence. It's very straight foward and easy to understand.
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/truth_or_lies_6.htm
2006-12-09
13:10:32 ·
update #1
All the ones answering, that are keeping calm and being mature, thank you! To the others getting mad, saying you hate me, and telling me I'm wrong please either calm down or don't bother.
If you hate me, hate me, I know I'm a good person
If "your" Bible doesn't say that, I'm not going word for word here! I'm given limited amounts of space to write in, so chill. I've been taking Bible Studies since I was in school, I know what I'm talking about and I am not making this stuff up!
2006-12-09
13:27:58 ·
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How can you people honestly be argueing that "some parts of the Bible don't count anymore"? If it didn't count and had absolutely no barrings on what we should do why is it in there? Just becaus ethe Ten Commandments are in the Old Testament does that mean that "New Testament" Christians shoudln't follow it? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!
In the Old Testament the Sabbath was Sat. (The 7th day) and now most people treat the Sabbath as Sun even though nothing is in the Bible (Old or New Testament) says "go to church since on Sun. since that was the day I had risen".
2006-12-09
13:37:31 ·
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Slaves were not an adoption into a family. Want to know how I know this? Here's another quote out of the Bible...
Ex 21:20 "If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he is to be punished, but if the slave gets up and dies in a day or two no punishment is needed because the slave is his propety."
Don't try to say I'm wrong when you are the one that doesn't know what you are talking about.
2006-12-09
14:35:55 ·
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Like I said before if you people would stop insulting me and my intelligence saying that I'm not wording things correctly or exactly and I'm leaving things out or taking things out of context, please understand the phrase LIMITED SPACE. Kudos to you for noticing that not everything is in here, but I'm wasteing my time enough as it is trying to defend myself against people who are attacking me for what I wrote. Which I did say to please not be rude or emotional when you write which many of you ignored.
2006-12-09
14:40:46 ·
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And yes I know that up until a couple hundred years ago slavery was still in America. The Bible was also used by The South as an arguement to keep slavery during the Civil War, did you know that?
2006-12-09
14:43:07 ·
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Annoit This: THANK YOU!!! The comedy and truth of your statementis perfect. Most Christians are like this. If it's in the Bible it's there for a reason don't pick and choose what you want to believe. YOU ARE A FAKE CHRISTIAN FOR DOING SO!
2006-12-11
01:32:32 ·
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Pheonix: Thank you for clearing everything up for me about these verses! You have now inspired me! After years of Bible Studies and church I have now decided to look elsewhere for a religion. Why be a Christian when I'm not respected by God as a man is? I never looked at it that way before but you plainly put it in my face and it worked.
Also I want to mention that BEFORE Adam had Eve there was another woman God had given to him. Her name was Lillith. She was made the same as Adam not FROM Adam. They didn't get along, Adam was cold and controlling, finally she had demanded respect, which she never recieved, this eventually turned her evil. So by Adam's harsh and unkind ways he turned his wife Lillith into a demon.
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/l/lilith.html
See what magically gets left out of the Bible? A verse that explains what can happen to people when they are neglected and treated disrespectfully. I hope you have the sence to treat your partner as an equal!!
2006-12-11
01:51:24 ·
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I can not give you links to support my answer. But I do agree with you. I do not think that it was altered a little, but greatly. There was a program on the History channel that discussed this, and it was very informative. The program spoke about the Gnostic texts of the Bible that had been removed. One, still stands out foremost in my mine. The Gospel of Peter. In this book, Jesus took Peter to Hell. Peter asked him if there was a way out of it, and Jesus said yes. All a person has to do is ask to be taken back to heaven. The only reason that this information was not given out to everyone is that if you knew you could get out of hell by asking, would you ever try to live a good life doing good things?
I also believe the Bible has been grossly altered in the translations. Sometimes there are no English words for the original Greek - so the make one. One word can change a sentence; the meaning, and the interpretation.
It gives me a level of comfort, knowing that it is not perfect. That God can not expect us all to be when his Bible - which in the beginning might have truly been untouched - has been corrupted by man.
2006-12-09 13:17:03
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answered by The Pope 5
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To answer this question would take a couple of books of several volumes. First off, we know that we do not have any original books of the Bible.And unless you can translate Greek and Latin as well as several other languages, you could never know for yourself whether you even have an accurate translation of the particular extant copy of a book of the Bible. Both anthropologists and historians agree that many of the books of the Bible reflect the culture and laws of the time in which they were written. In addition, prior to Gutenberg's published edition of the Vulgate Bible, scribes would make notations in the margins as they were translating. In subsequent translations, their notations were sometimes copied down erroneously as though they were original words of the previous translation. Furthermore, linguists argue about the reliability of the translations of the ancient transcripts of the Bible, and in particular the Greek and Hebrew transcipts. Hebrew language uses no articles and hence their is argument as to how to accurately translate particular passages. As to my personal opinion, I find the God of the Old Testament to be a vengeful, hateful, misogynistic, murderous nut. The laws of the Old Testament most probably reflect the mentality of the tribes at the time they were written. By the way, this is an excellent question. Unfortuntely, many people think the investigation of the Bible should not involve intelligent research. I I think that is a horrendous mistake.
2006-12-09 13:40:57
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answered by Anonymous
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Yeah, ok I see where this is going. The purest version is the King James version. The many translations that are out there must be carefully filter through the KJV. The scriptures you posted either came from the Old Testament, when there was no recompense or remedy for sins or in the case of 1 Cor 14 when rightly divided (interpreted) it means that woman should not gossip and stir up strife in the church through their many conversations. It was also the practice in that day that women would remain silent, that is, not teach. But God has given the ability and power to women to preach and teach His Word by the power of the Holy Spirit for the purpose of the Gospel going out all over the world.
2006-12-09 13:21:14
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answered by drivn2excelchery 4
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Hello, most of the passages you quoted are from the old testament and there fore most Christian feel they do not pertain to us in this age...(after Jesus's death)....some of the others are easily explained by knowing the times in which they were written and the reasons they were written..."can't explain it all here"....but to answer your question...yes, I know the bible has many versions, even today they are constantly being re-written, some say to make it easier to read....I do not believe this is a good thing...even though the Bible is VERY complicated at times, I feel that if you ask for guidance before reading it...even the most complicated passages become clear...and sometime something will become clear to you at a given time because you are in a state of mind to understand the passage, when before you were not...Hope this helped a little...thanx for asking this question.
2006-12-09 13:21:04
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answered by Lilliput1212 4
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The bible has been altered, changed and re-written, with the kings in power adding passages to help keep men as good little workers and soldiers.
I do like when the Bible waivers are attacking gays, they go back to Leveticus, and the old testament, but when it's pointed out some of the nastier sections, "oh, that doesn't count".
sigh
2006-12-09 14:10:54
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answered by Hatir Ba Loon 6
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I suppose it is possible that there are things that were 'left out' when the Scriptures were canonized but I choose to have faith that if God wanted us to have some things He would have made sure they got in there.
Sabbaoth rules are scary. I wonder if we will find out that this Sunday thing was the wrong thing to do....
Women silent...yes that is in there...although your translation is interesting... try the KJV... part of the problem was that men and women were separated in worship and then in the NT church were together and the gals would ask questions and disrupt the service so they were told to wait and discuss it at home. This supports the idea that a man should be spiritual leader in the home also.
Lev read in context.
Numbers--this is OT and specific in context.
2006-12-09 13:20:42
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answered by Orpah! 3
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I'm sure there has been much manipulating of the scriptures. I am interested in knowing, whatever happened to the original copy of Revelation. I would like to know if the original really says that "women" are defiling. I heard a few years ago, they discovered the tomb of John the Baptist. I have heard nothing more. Are they doctoring it all up first so that it will conform to what they've been teaching for two thousand years?
2006-12-09 13:26:20
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answered by Anonymous
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People have a way of taking the Bible out of context. As a Biblical scholar, I have seen this done many times.
Exodus and Leviticus refered to laws of ancient Israel, which are not intended for New Testament Christians. The reference from Numbers was spoken by Moses -- a sinful human -- and not directly from God.
In I Corinthians, Paul was discussing order in the church of Corinth. This is descriptive, not necessarily prescriptive. In Corinth, they were having difficulties retaining order in their worship services, because anyone and everyone was constantly jumping up to preach. Paul set down some guidelines to help retain orderliness -- basically, the men were taught the Scriptures, and they in turn taught their families.
If you read the rest of the context, you'll find a lot of these make more sense.
2006-12-09 13:18:37
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answered by wnk 5
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Ex. 31:15 This was the law and like it or not we are all guilty and have earned ourselves the death penalty. 1 Cor. 14 Has a deep spiritual meaning and is not corrupted scripture I would ask you to seek God and study his word for understanding. I could go through each one of these but it is clear instead of seeking the meaning you are judgeing God it is imperative that frst you come to know God then the truth will be revealed to you.
2006-12-09 13:27:53
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answered by djmantx 7
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I won't need links from the internet, only the bible, and my experience in sacred studies.
Your qoute from the book of Numbers is taken out of context. read the whole chapter. it was a famous example of someone using religon as an excuse to start a war and plunder the resources of another country, not a command to murder and rape eachother. no tampering here.
The exodus quote you gave us was an old law. Jesus came to say tha the old laws are worth turd. no tampering here.
The corinthians quote you gave me (1 corinthians 14:34-35) does not surprise me. Paul, along with the other disciples, were envious of mary magdellan for being treated equally to them, and just as upset with jesus for accepting the children. both groups were considered 2nd-class citizens in that time, and for a long time afterward. Paul was just giving his opinion. this was not tampered with
and, as for your leviticus quote you gave us, that was how people acted back then. it was considered perfectly moral in that time, and thousands of years later, to have slaves. heck, people thought that slaves were OK until only 120 or so years ago. Slavery being bad is a relatively new idea, so there is no potential tampering within that book.
in conclusion: no books of the bible were tampered with. all of these quotes were either taken out of context or misunderstood. there is nothing out of the ordinary in the translations.
2006-12-09 13:33:22
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answered by Ambiguity 3
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