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now thats why it says that the sun sets in the mud.

what do you think?

2006-12-09 00:33:18 · 17 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

sura 18/26

2006-12-09 00:37:44 · update #1

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it's mean two things in my language : newspaper n bibble for muslim people (Qur'an or Koran)

2006-12-09 02:20:12 · answer #1 · answered by bäwЄŁ Ļoĕ ® 7 · 1 1

The Qur'an teaches that the world is flat. This doctrine is believed by a great many Islamic scholars even today. The Jewish/Christian Bible revealed that the earth is round in Isaiah 40:22 and via Job (26:7). Speaking of God in Isaiah 40:22, the Jewish/Christian Bible says; "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth". Job 26:7 says, "He stretches out the north over empty space; He hangs the earth on nothing".

- In many places, the Qur'an alludes to the fact that the earth is flat and its mountains are like poles which create a balance so that the Earth does not tilt. See Qur'an, Suras 79:30 (And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse); and 18:47 (and you will see the earth a leveled plain).

- The Qur'an teaches that the sun sets into a Muddy Spring on earth. According to Sura 18:86, the sun literally sets into a muddy spring or a black sea here on Earth, and Sura 18:90 mentions a specific place on Earth where the sun rises. Many Muslims try and say about this absurdity "oh this is poetic". Nice try, it cannot be dismissed as figurative language or poetic, because it is given as part of an historical narrative.

The Qur’an says that one of the righteous men of God’s servants saw the sun set in a certain place of the earth—in particular a well full of water and mud. There, this man found some people. Let us read what is recorded in the Qur’an (chapter "the Cave", Sura 18 verse 86). "Until when he reached the place where the sun set, he found it going down into a black sea, and found by it a people. We said: O Zulqarnain! either give them a chastisement or do them a benefit. ".

2006-12-09 08:48:40 · answer #2 · answered by djmantx 7 · 1 1

I'm not Muslim, but no, it's not. It is a religious book they follow. Are you honestly asking a question here? I may not agree with my Muslim neighbors in their religious beliefs, but that does not mean that I do not try to build some level of tolerance by understanding their beliefs better.

Again, I'm not Muslim, I'm a Christian. And if I spoke, Arabic, I would say that it set in the mud if it was raining perhaps. I study Eastern languages, and that branch of language has a lingual theory that is very poetic and concrete at the same time. For example, they do not have a bland words as we do. For example, in Hebrew, take the word "Seashore". They don't use such blasse' words. They literally say: lip of the sea. That is not inaccurate. That is simply their language, which I respect.

Again I ask, why ask are you asking such a slanted question, without doing the research? The Qur'an is a book that relies heavily on the Arabic language. That is one reason why they beleive it is erroneous to translate it. Again, speaking as a non-Muslim who DOES study languages, trust me, both the Bible and the Qur'an do lose something in the translation. Just as if you were trying to translate phrases from English to Chinese.

In addition, there is the problem of trying to translate a language from a people from a different time period.

Let's say that Allah did give him the Qur'an. Now I don't personally believe that he did, but let's just say he did. I don't think that Allah is going to talk in words to him that only a person from the 21st century is going to understand. He's going to talk in the language of that day, and in the concepts of that time.

What is erroneous about saying that the sun sets in the mud? Or in the sand? I say it "sets in the west", and technically, it does not.

2006-12-09 08:55:20 · answer #3 · answered by raVar 3 · 1 1

The Koran is allegedly the words of Allah as told to and written down by the prophet Mohammed.

In many sections it is remarkably similar to large sections of the Old Testament.

Many followers of Islam have never read the full text, and many leaders have "interpreted" the text in a variety of ways to serve their own purposes.

It is held in great reverence by Muslims, and many consider it offensive for an infidel (ie anyone not a Muslim) to even touch a copy of the Koran.

What many Muslims outside of the Middle East do not realize is that it is also considered offensive to read the words of the Koran in any language but the Arabic in which it was given. It is worth learning Arabic just to be able to read the Loran - it is beautifully written, and has long been a standard for Arabic writing.

2006-12-09 08:40:20 · answer #4 · answered by Uncle John 6 · 1 4

Why do some people think that science and religion are separate from each other?
Hi all. I am a Moslem from Iran. Why do some people think that science and religion are separate from each other? For example Koran is a book related to 1400 years ago. Saying that Koran (or Bible) is written by a man is definitely wrong. They have exactly written what God has told them. There are many signs in Koran (and surely in Bible) that proves that they are not ordinary books. For example Koran is a book full of secrets and it is impossible for man to discover all of them. (There are many books that describe its secrets) Koran has indirectly talked about facts that surely were not discovered at that time like saying indirectly that the Earth is round and it moves (Koran says there are two easts and two wests and the Earth is like a camel that moves slowly which means it is round and it moves) and that wind is an important factor for fertilizing plants and also for raining and that there are pillars which cause the sky not to fall down (which we know as gravity today and if there was no gravity planets would hit each other and…) Who knew such things 1400 years ago? Science has discovered them hundreds of years later! You may laugh at these now but if you think deeply you will understand that if God would have talked about such facts directly (for example if he said directly that the earth is round and it moves) no one would understand it let alone to believe it! God has cleverly given examples that were understandable for the people who lived at that time. Because someone who has told them (God) has created everything so he is the only one who knows everything. In fact the only source of the science is God. God has created whatever exists (including things that we can see and things that we cannot see) so he knows everything completely. He doesn’t need to examine things like scientists because none of the facts are hidden for him. Tell me how could a man (prophet Mohammad) who lived in the time of ignorance, 1400 years ago, talk about things that nobody knew at that time. Plus he didn’t know how to read and write so who has given him the ability of doing it? (Only 17 people in Arabia could read and write at that time and they were all kings or their children) this proves that he and the rest of the prophets like Jesus Christ were the chosen people to guide rest of the human beings. And there are so many reasons that Koran has never been edited (Of course unbelievers tried hard to edit it but they couldn’t because God helped many of the truly Moslems to remember all of Koran so what we read as Koran today I mean Persian and Arabic is definitely what was sent by God) there are still unbelievers today who publish edited English translations of Koran and I hope God will never forgive them.

2006-12-10 10:18:28 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

The Koran is a load of rubbish as is Islam

2006-12-12 23:03:04 · answer #6 · answered by booh 3 · 0 1

from al qur'an surah al kahfi (the cave) (18) ayat 83; about the story of dzulqarnain's journey.

interpretation:
ayat 86; "...the setting of the sun..."
= west => morocco, spain, and atlantic ocean, where the sun sets. [morocco is al maghribi (the westernmost). and maghribi is also the ancient name of madrid, capitol of spain.]
ayat 90; "...the rising of the sun..."
= east => hindustan.
ayat 92; "...then followed he (another) way..."
= north => armenia.
ayat 93; "...he reached (a tract) between two mountains..."
=> a passage-way between armenia and azerbaijan.

may it help.-

2006-12-09 09:55:59 · answer #7 · answered by harri s 3 · 0 1

It's a work of fiction, just like the Bible. Those two interesting books of midle eastern tales and legends even share some common caracters. They have nothing to do with science or reality though. They were written, like many tales and legends to entertain the readers.

2006-12-09 08:41:56 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

Koran is the holly book of Islam , but it contains a lots of information about science , history , ethics ...... etc

2006-12-09 08:44:21 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

The Quran, just like the Bible, has references to esoteric knowledge.
Esoteric meaning for the special few. But of course, one must have
esoteric knowledge to see it.
It mentions the Principles, or forces at work in nature, that people in the West,
with their "scientific" minds, still can't comprehend. Like magnetism, and sound. Both are powerful forces that exist on multi-dimensional levels.
Knowledge has been veiled till now. So that people couldn't abuse it.
Just look at the fascination with doing magic today.
That stuff can get you hurt!

2006-12-09 08:39:04 · answer #10 · answered by THE NEXT LEVEL 5 · 0 5

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