Why do so many non-practitioners Tai Kwan Do want to say we can't defend our selves.?

Question

I have faced opponents of many styles and althow I havn't won theme all there is not a one who has faced me who wold call me or my style infereor. I challenge any real martal artest to clame that a fighters ability rest in any thing but that fighters own inate style and his drive to train.

Answer 1

it's a stigma man, they see someone get beaten by another discipline, or someone that came with a better strategy to win and think that the discipline is no good.

and the fact that Tae Kwon Do is one of the most recognizable Martial Arts as a sport (especially due to it's induction into the Olympics) hasn't helped much either.

All it boils down to is the fighter or competitior themselves.

When Matt Hughes defeated Royce Gracie in a PPV match, does that mean that Gracie Jujitsu automatically sucks?

No it does not, Matt just came with a better strategy and won out.

But on the other side of the coin, when someone who's a practitioner of TKD gets beaten by ANYONE else that studies somethin' different it's already ingrained in the minds of the people who don't like it (or it didn't work out for them personnally)to say that TKD sucks and they just dismiss any arguement to the contrary just as easily, when in fact; it is just as formadible a discipline as any other.

You fight how you train. Train sloppy, you'll be a sloppy fighter, competitor, or Martial Artist. Train well and improve or perfect your techniques and you'll do well.

Answer 2

Well, there is no ultimate martial art. The training of martial art would always reach the same goal, but it's just which path do you take. Personally, I have black belts in both tae kwon do and karate, I feel that tae kwon do has been gradually converted in to a sport. When I go to some tkd dojos now, they seem to care more about scoring on and opponent and thus sacrificed the power in kicks, the forms and many self defensing techniques. When you carefully exam many tae kwon do practitioners now, many of them have sloppy punches although they have beautiful kicks. Therefore, these are the people that many martial artists may look down on. BUT, if you look at some Korean or Taiwanese tae kwon do teams, for example, the Korean Tigers, they're really good.
Well, I feel that Tae kwon Do is very cool with the fancy kicks, but I'm sure that you know you wouldn't use them in a realy fight (too risky)...This doesn't mean you can't. But, after comparing karate with tae kwon do, I feel that karate is more practical.
But, it really doesn't matter, as long as you work hard in it, no matter what martial arts you take, you can be a great fighter.

Answer 3

I usually maintain that SPORT Tae Kwon Do is bad. Americanized sport Tae Kwon Do is even worse. A no-holds barred fight between a Krav Mage and American-TKD fighter... Krav Maga wins. [[Assume this is similar body mass and height]]. American-TKD and Jiu Jitsu, Jiu Jitsu will win. American-TKD and Sheng Hun... well, Sheng Hun will win. Same with Karate, Hapi Ki Do, and many other martial arts. That's because the training regime of the American sport style martial art is for point scoring competition. American sport TKD has a conditioning process. If you dropped into a horse riding stance with a vertical punch just barely making contact and no guard over your face... you get the point and are a step closer to victory. Why? The attacker is in an AKP. But, that's the system. Unfortunately, no points, fight without any restrictions would see most other styles victorious because of that conditioning. Hung Fut, Aikido, and Shorin-Ryu, along with Poekoelan[[sadly]] would most likely prevail. No offense, it's just the training techniques are different. One is sport, the other is practical.

Personally, a Choi's TKD in Beaverton, OR, I remember entering the school and attending a Black Belt class full of adults. We all ended up sparring and I had a Red Sash in Hung Fut around this time. I beat every single adult there... but not according to tournament rules. Tournament style: they won. Practical style [[what you find on the street]]: I won. Crotch kicks, shadow knee breaks, grappling. I realize there are practical learning from TKD, but not in the SPORT world which is the majority of TKD.

Likewise, following my performance, the owner, Choi himself, told his teens class never to fight back on the street if they're getting robbed.

Like Bruce Lee once said, "Kicking to the head is as effective as punching to the foot."

Answer 4

of the TKD people I have met that were awesome fighters, it was their natural ability that won, not the TKD. you see, they were good at anything they took up. sad they chose TKD to train in. my mate was super fast and strong and was vicious in a fight, he was a TKD'er, but it wasnt the TKD that was the winning part, it was his viciousness and his ability to turn on and off with violence. nice guy, but crazy in a fight.

I agree it is the person, and not the art, but then not all arts are created equal. TKD doesnt use elbows of knees, so through limiting its weapons, limits its potential. there is no optimization of what the body has, so how can it be classes as a compete art when it is incomplete? we have elbows, why not utilize them? a guy who only knows the basics is the underdog in a fight against someone who knows more. but if he is more violent, it can swing in his favor.

it is the person, but the art can make for an improved assault. sadly I do not feel that TKD is efficient enough to be classed as a complete art. if you are good at it, and feel it is awesome, stop giving the art more credit than it is due, it is you that is the key, move on and train in something else, and you will see that you are good at that too, and test the effectiveness of your knowledge by learning something else. what are you afraid of?

Answer 5

because it's not designed for self defence it's designed as a sport to please the masses from ages4-104.it's ok to use to crosstrain and learn the very little good things it has so you can incorparate it into your own style.the worst part of it is they convince you that it is actually good and you can actually defend yourself and no other style is any good.until you wake up in hospital after being beat up by a barbie doll with a wand or some other fairy.or you try another style and realise youv'e been brainwashed.and i have no problem calling tkd inferior because it is.just remember also-Its not the dog in the fight but the fight in the dog.

Answer 6

I think it's because that many tae kwon do MA'ists usually train under dojo's with questionable teaching. Not to mention the fact that most MAists learn point sparring and not actual reality based fighting. When in the streets point sparring doesn't really help and that's what people base tae kwon do on.

Answer 7

Tae kwon do is a great style , the problem lies in its teachers . Many only train their students to be point fighters . I have seen true tae kwon do , and its totally different from the sport fighting tae kwon do many schools teach . That is what has given it such a bad name , the point fighting schools .
Yours in the arts: Instructor Hook

Answer 8

they are just jeolous because they cant really fight taekwondo fight very little points any more they do olympic type. see chuck norris learned TKD he got his 8th dan in the late 90's. tell them to go up aginst jean lopez, tim thackery, or any of tkd's olympic fighters they wouldnt last a min. its been proven time after time. a good martial artist also will study many martial arts

Answer 9

I would have to agree with Garh G. TRADITIONAL TKD is mostly point sparring oriented. That is why I practice NON-TRADITIONAL TKD, which incorporates take-downs, wrestling, submissions, and kickboxing. Albeit I do believe that if you excel at any form of martial art, you can defend yourself from attack.

Answer 10

Martial arts was created to compete against people who dont do martial arts, there are only a few other martial arts that are desgined to fight martial arts, but to answer your question , non practioners feel they dont have to foolw the same rules that martial artists do