Jehovah witnesses: What is your opinion on this proof of the trinity?

Question

http://www.ebiblestudies.com/BibleStudies/60_Questions_on_the_Godhead.htm

Answer 1

Since others who are not JW 's are answering, this looks like a good study. If you wanted to show the things the JW's are up to, you should have pointed out the link to Angel Arellano's "Examining "Should you believe in the trinity?"" and shown how the JW's cant quote people accurately and in context.

Answer 2

Your question is backwards. You are offering a disproof of the trinity doctrine. Your question is deceptive.

Jehovah witnesses solve the false trinity doctrine by making Jesus a created being and not God incarnate. Like you, they believe in One God but cannot accept that Jehovah was born in a manger and took on the name of Jesus to become the Lamb for sinners slain.

Jehovah witnesses, with there created son and other doctrines, are in fact under two powerfull spirits. One from the religion of Nimis and the other being the same spirit that was upon the Sadducees of the Old Testament.

The opinions of men follow their hearts. If God changes the heart the opinion will follow. Generally the human religious experience is one of opinion and will not be changed however correct the teaching. A misleading question does not help.

Answer 3

‘But isn’t Jesus called a god in the Bible?’ someone may ask. This is true. Yet Satan is also called a god. (2 Corinthians 4:4) At John 1:1, which refers to Jesus as “the Word,” some Bible translations say: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” But notice, verse 2 says that the Word was “in the beginning with God.” And while men have seen Jesus, verse 18 says that “no man hath seen God at any time.” (Authorized or King James Version) So we find that some translations of verse 1 give the correct idea of the original language when they read: “The Word was with God, and the Word was divine,” or was “a god,” that is, the Word was a powerful godlike one. (An American Translation) Clearly, Jesus is not Almighty God. In fact, Jesus spoke of his Father as “my God” and as “the only true God.”

Did Jesus ever say that he was God? No, he never did. Rather, in the Bible he is called “God’s Son.” And he said: “The Father is greater than I am.” Also, Jesus explained that there were some things that neither he nor the angels knew but that only God knew. (Mark 13:32) Further, on one occasion Jesus prayed to God, saying: “Let, not my will, but yours take place.” (Luke 22:42) If Jesus were the Almighty God, he would not have prayed to himself, would he? In fact, following Jesus’ death, the Scripture says: “This Jesus God resurrected.” (Acts 2:32) Thus the Almighty God and Jesus are clearly two separate persons. Even after his death and resurrection and ascension to heaven, Jesus was still not equal to his Father.


As for the “Holy Spirit,” the so-called third Person of the Trinity, this is not a person but God’s active force. John the Baptizer said that Jesus would baptize with holy spirit, even as John had been baptizing with water. Hence, in the same way that water is not a person, holy spirit is not a person. (Matthew 3:11) What John foretold was fulfilled when, following the death and resurrection of Jesus, holy spirit was poured out on his followers gathered in Jerusalem. The Bible says: “They all became filled with holy spirit.” (Acts 2:4) Were they “filled” with a person? No, but they were filled with God’s active force. Thus the facts make clear that the Trinity is not a Bible teaching. Actually, long before Jesus walked the earth gods were worshiped in groups of three, or trinities, in places such as ancient Egypt and Babylon.

Answer 4

Was somebody shoving something down peoples throats? Who said anything about anytihing? It seems like a serious question to me. As I see it we all chose to click on this persons question. Don't be angry, try allow what ever message God is trying to give you. If you believed something wrong, wouldn't you want an opportunity to find truth? God will always try to shed light, we just have to look towards it.

Answer 5

Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians; they teach that Christ was and is divine and of the same nature as God.

Jehovah's Witnesses teach that no salvation occurs without Christ, that accepting Christ's sacrifice is a requirement for true worship, that every prayer must acknowledge Christ, that Christ is the King of God's Kingdom, that Christ is the head of the Christian congregation, that Christ is immortal and above every creature, even that Christ was the 'master worker' in creating the universe!

Jehovah's Witnesses love and respect and honor Christ. However, Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the Scriptures quite plainly demonstrate that Jesus and the Almighty are separate distinct persons, and the Almighty created Jesus as His firstborn son.

(Colossians 1:15) the firstborn of all creation

(Mark 10:18) Jesus said to him: 'Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God.

(Revelation 3:14) the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God

(Philippians 2:5-6) Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God's form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God

(John 8:42) Neither have I come of my own initiative at all, but that One sent me forth

(John 12:49) I have not spoken out of my own impulse, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to tell and what to speak

(John 14:28) I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am

(1 Corinthians 15:28) But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him

(Matthew 20:23) this sitting down at my right hand and at my left is not mine to give, but it belongs to those for whom it has been prepared by my Father

(1 Corinthians 11:3) I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; ...in turn the head of the Christ is God

(John 20:17) I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.

(Deuteronomy 6:4) Jehovah our God is one Jehovah

(1 Corinthians 8:4-6) There is no God but one. For even though there are those who are called "gods," whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many "gods" and many "lords," there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him

Thanks again for an opportunity to share what the bible actually says about the distinct persons of Jesus Christ the Son and Jehovah God the Father!

Learn more!
http://watchtower.org/e/ti/
http://watchtower.org/e/20050422/
http://watchtower.org/e/20020515/
http://watchtower.org/e/pr/article_04.htm

Answer 6

There is nothing like TRINITY, God is only one and alone.
Jesus was not the son of God, but a messenger of God and very nuch human, he did not die on the cross but was lifted by God and would return sometime before the Dooms Day.
Everyone is responsible for his/her sins and noone (Jesus) could have died for anyone's sins.
We will be asked and punished for our sins and rewarded for our good deeds on the day of Judgment,

I would request to please check out
http://www.ahya.org/amm/modules.php?name=Lectures&d_op=viewdownload2&cid=2
http://www.islamtomorrow.com

Answer 7

What is your opinion on this proof of the trinity being a lie.

http://www.watchtower.org/library/ti/article_01.htm

Answer 8

Same old speal, different channel.

Answer 9

So you're trying to disprove one religion by shoving your own down their throats?

Yeah, that'll work...

Answer 10

there is no proof