I ask, because so many have answered that there cannot be saints in Heaven now, because they don't see it in their Bibles. Or that the Catholic church is wrong for its knowledge of saint. And so forth.
2006-12-08 17:29:45 · 17 answers · asked by BigPappa 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Rev 6:9-10
When he broke open the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slaughtered because of the witness they bore to the word of God.
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They cried out in a loud voice, "How long will it be, holy and true master, before you sit in judgment and avenge our blood on the inhabitants of the earth?"
Aren't they, apparently, in Heaven? That is, under the altar in Heaven?
2006-12-08 18:01:54 · update #1
And if there are saints in Heaven, can they not then pray for us?
2006-12-08 18:02:44 · update #2
Absolutely not! It is limitless..........................
2006-12-08 17:33:21 · answer #1 · answered by TS 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The thing is that God is Limitless in knowledge and power. As soon as you die, time for you does not exist. So the moment you die you are already instantaneously in the future judgment and reward or punishment. So everyone that is going to Heaven is already there because time is irrelevant. God sees time in its entirety he knows everything from start to Finnish. As far as Sainthood goes. Everyone who believes in God and His Son are all considered Saints according to the Bible. The Catholic Church was started by the Romans in order to control Religion. The Roman Empire did not fall, it became the Roman Catholic Church and is still alive and well, the wealthiest and most influential Church in the world. Are they wrong, in some ways yes. But as far as Saints being in Heaven, there is a passage in Revelation that talks about saints asking God when he would Judge the world and make them pay for their spilled blood. Revelation 6:9-10. They may not be living in Heaven but are at rest until the end of days. So at present time, there are no saints in Heaven.
2006-12-09 01:51:23 · answer #2 · answered by Roll'n Bluntz 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God's wisdom is also in the Holy Tradition of the Church and in the ability of the human mind to Reason. Bible, Tradition and Reason. This is the basis of the Episcopal (Anglican) Church.
There are Saints in heaven and on earth.
2006-12-09 01:35:11 · answer #3 · answered by tonks_op 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't understand what you are saying about saints; but to answer your question, the wisdom of God is absolutely not limited to what is in the Bible. In a conservative sense, is not the wisdom of God shared by Deacons, Preachers and Priests every Sunday to their congregation? The things they say are not always in the Bible.
In a less conventional sense, the wisdom of God is also present in every other spiritual text, or even spiritual thought, because none of those things can come into being without Him!
2006-12-09 01:35:36 · answer #4 · answered by jayne_galaxy 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No. There are other teachings that God has prepared for us. Some go hand and hand w/ the Bible,some are new revelations, and some we haven't even received yet. We will only learn a very small portion of what the Lord has in store for us while we are here upon the Earth. We will learn the rest in the hereafter
2006-12-09 01:37:28 · answer #5 · answered by J DUB 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
My opinion is that the scripture writers themselves said that all that was done and taught by Jesus was not recorded because there was not enough books to record it all, so I believe that there are many writing excluded which also contain Truths of Father God-Jesus. The Protestant movement brought about the disbelief in saints because Martin Luther read in the scriptures where Paul says that we have only one mediator with Father God and that is Jesus Christ. Hope this helps.
2006-12-09 01:40:00 · answer #6 · answered by martha d 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't think so.
We shouldn't try to limit or contain God in anyway. We would be distorting the concept of a Higher Power's existence.
How can we define God in one book? How can we know what God has intended or created outside of the written word? (and even if we could...how do we know we understood it all correctly?)
God's wisdom is life....all of life..we just need to look around and we can see more than has ever been written in any library.
2006-12-09 01:43:22 · answer #7 · answered by ? 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Ofcourse not.
Because always wisdom of God Revealed purposely to a certain an issues so cant be Limited.
2014-08-16 00:43:30 · answer #8 · answered by Boniface 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No, and God does not put his signature on everything He writes. In those terms, God can work through anybody, and they may or may not be aware of it. Come to your own conclusions. You'll have the right answer when the final judgment begins.
2006-12-09 01:34:29 · answer #9 · answered by ? 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God's wisdom is completely limitless. Human interpretation and application of information is limited, thus the confusion between denominational beliefs.
2006-12-09 01:45:45 · answer #10 · answered by raven dismukes 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
(Romans 11:33) 33 O the depth of God’s riches and wisdom and knowledge! How unsearchable his judgments [are] and past tracing out his ways [are]. . .
(Isaiah 55:8-9) 8 “For the thoughts of YOU people are not my thoughts, nor are my ways YOUR ways,” is the utterance of Jehovah. 9 “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so my ways are higher than YOUR ways, and my thoughts than YOUR thoughts.. . .
2006-12-09 01:40:17 · answer #11 · answered by fasteddie 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋