I could never toss my children into the fire no matter what they did.?

Question

or anyone for that matter. Does that make me more moral than the christian god?

Answer 1

You are so right.

Answer 2

Of course you wouldn't. No loving parent would punish their children by fire.

We humans are created in Gods image. So, since you have a sense of moral, He has it to.

Gods feelings are expressed in Jeremiah 32:35:
"...in order to make their sons and their daughters pass through the fire...a thing that I did not command them, neither did it come up into my heart to do this detestable thing..."

Did you notice that ?
Just like you could never think of punishing your children or anyone else with fire, So God, who is love (1 John 4:8) could neither.

Many religions that claim to be Christian says it is a biblical teaching, but it's not.

The bible does speak of fire. However, reason it out. What happens to something when it's put in fire ? It is destroyed, becomes nothing. Right ?
So, at times when God speaks of fire, it is symbolic for complete destruction.

Answer 3

Very good question. However, let us reason together. What does fire really mean when used in the Holy writ? Well to answer this question we must turn to the Holy writ. There are two different uses of fire. First we see the residents of Sodom and Gomorrah, of this we read,
"Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven." (Genesis 19:24)
Further we read of the the inhabitants of Jerusalem,
"Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD: As the vine tree among the trees of the forest, which I have given to the fire for fuel, so will I give the inhabitants of Jerusalem." (Ezekiel 15:6)
In these instances a literal fire was cast upon the wicked, because they would not listen to the prophets that the Lord sent unto them. Instead of repenting of their ways, they hearkned not unto God. As a punishment the fire was sent.
Suppose we were to relate this in modern terms. Suppose we have a senerio with a stubborn disobedient daughter or son that will not listen to their parents. After trying so many times to warn their child to behave, they say, "If you do not behave you will receive a spanking."
Hopeing that this would resolve their problems, their child still does not listen. Finally seeing that their is nothing left to do, they take their son or daughter, explain what he or she has done wrong, and gives a sound spanking. In this way did the Lord work with the Jerusalem, and works with his children.
Now reverting over to the second use of fire. There are many instances in which the use of fire and brimstone is conntected to the place the wicked will go. However this is not a literal statement! I repeat, this is not a literal statement! Fire and brimstone is a figurative way to illustrate the torment the wicked will suffer for not repenting. Thus we read,
"And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." (Revelation 20:10)
Let us take this and relate it to modern termonology. We will say that "Mike" (a made up individual) decides he is going to go to the party regardless what his parents have told him. After having what he thinks is a good time at the party, he heads home. Driving home Mike begins to feel bad for what he has done. He regrets doing it, but knows that he can not go back and fix it, for it is past. So it is with the wicked that die in sin, theirs will the endless memory of knowing that they didn't repent when they had the chance.
Therefore has the Lord said,
"Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light." (Matthew 11:28-30)

Answer 4

Not all Christians believe that people will "burn" in fire for their sins. I'm a Mormon and mormons believe that the "fire" spoken of in the Bible is an analogy for the inner feeling of guilts that we will experience for mistakes we made while in this life. The guilt is not caused by God, it is of our own doing. Mormons don't believe in a literal fiery hell. We believe that every single person, no matter what they have done while in this life, will be rewarded with eternal life, and based on their good deeds and faith on this earth, will be rewarded with a certain level in Heaven, even the worst people will be able to inherit the Telestial Kingdom, which according to Mormon scripture is still better than anything we as humans can comprehend right now on.

"Hell", as in Satan's realm is more of a state of mind that is reserved for very few people, who willingly and knowingly turn their back on God, even after having received a perfect knowledge of him. It would be like denying that the sun exists, even though it's shining down on you. We believe that most people wouldn't be able to go to hell even if they tried.

Mormons don't believe that God is the cold, distant wrathful person which is often described. We believe that he is a loving father who has concerns about all of his children, just like any other father, even though God's love is perfect. I hope that gives you a perspective on how some people view God.

Answer 5

You are a bad moralist.

You should chastise your children by giving them a good roasting.

Here's what to do:-

Get two metal V-supports and place a metal bar between them. Place the assembled article in a large, open hearth where there is a good fire.

Attach a handle to the metal bar.

Superglue your children to the metal-bar and turn the handle slowly until the children are crisp.

This way, if they survive, they will know the troments of hell and the wrath of God in one easy lesson, and they will love you, and your God, forever.

Answer 6

No, that just makes you an ignorant, uneducated , critical person. By letting our children walk through the fire we are doing things that are wrong by not teaching them the right things, not throwing them into the fire. Yes, there were pagan peoples that lived during biblical times that actually threw their children into the fire for sacrifices to their false gods, but never to the True God. You are not doing any good by spreading your junk around, you indeed are the type that would put your own children through the fire....KECK

Answer 7

Morality differs from person to person. If you were to ask a Utilitarian if it was moral, he'd say what's the greatest good? Does it benefit more people to do the act, than one? But if you were to ask a Deontologist or an Absolutist, he'd ask can you Will throwing someone into a fire to be a Universal act. Probably not.
So, it depends.

Answer 8

Well said: and God would not do it either! This is an invention from the church to scare the hell out us to come to church and pay taxes.
Satan would do that, but not God and I concider this bashemy to wards our LOVING HEAVENLY FATHER.
As for my question that is still open, if God told Abraham to kill Isaak. Do you believe that? I think if Abraham would be living today and told Sarah God wants him to kill his son, she would tell him to go and see a shrink. But all Christians answering my questions so far sincerely believe God would make such an disgusting and pervese request...

Answer 9

If you had 7 children and one of them was constantly torturing the other six, would you not punish? Or would you let the rest of your children suffer torture because you were too moral to punish the trouble maker? Does that answer your question? Peace.

Answer 10

I'm not sure what you are in reference to.

Leviticus 18:21
You shall not give any of your children to pass through the fire and sacrifice them to Molech [the fire god], nor shall you profane the name of your God [by giving it to false gods]. I am the Lord.

"In the middle of this passage, He warns against offering infants to Molech, the fiery brass god of the Canaanites. After stoking the fires within the idol so that it glowed red-hot, the idol worshipers laid living children in the searing arms of the idol, so that these innocents would writhe in torment as they were cremated alive.

The fact that God includes horrible practices of demon worship amid these prohibitions against certain sexual acts would seem to indicate several insights. First, idolatrous worship and human sacrifice to the demon Molech may well have had a sadistic sexual component; people engaged in such horrible behavior may well have derived some monstrous sexual pleasure from these horrible acts of ritual torture and infanticide. Second, God seems to view these forbidden sexual practices in much the same way that He views demon worship. Third, God seems to suggest a connection between sinful sexual practices and demonic activity.

All of these practices, the Bible suggests, provide open doors to the destruction of our humanity and human society by opening our lives to demonic influence. The spirits of darkness are looking for opportunities to take up residence in our humanity, and one way they gain a foothold is through sexual practices that God has forbidden. As Satan's influence grows in a human life, people become susceptible to demonic oppression and even possession."

The Way to Wholeness
Chapter 17 : Blood and Sex
by Ray C Stedman
http://www.raystedman.org/leviticus/leviticus.html


Today we scarifice our children in other ways. We leave them in Day Care or make them objects of our sexual fantasy.

Answer 11

You got it all wrong. The Bible does not preach a burning hell. That was one of the doctrines that the Catholic Church introduced into Christianity in the 4th century. The Bible tells us at Eccl. 9:5 of the true condition of the dead. It says: "As for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all." Ps. 146:4 says that when a person dies, "his spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish." The Bible likens death to sleep. See John 11:11-14.

Jehovah God would never torture people in a burning hell.