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I just asked this question, but everyone who responded apparently thought I was serious. Let me try again.

I have an absurd idea which, while it is patently incorrect by every measurable standard, I claim is my religion. I am therefore demanding equal time in public education, so that my crazy ideas will be put in the same context as the correct answer that everyone with an IQ above 31 can agree on.

This is exactly the same argument that is being used by advocates of Creation Science and Intelligent Design. They are using "Freedom of Religion" to get their mythology taught in science class alongside the products of repeatable experiments that are accepted by 99.99% of all biologists, geologists, cosmologists, and astrophysicsts in the world.

So if you're going to make my kids learn your superstitions as science, then I think your kids should learn about my insane conjectures as mathematics.

2006-12-08 04:14:58 · 8 answers · asked by abram.kelly 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Richard Dawkins talks about this very thing. Faith is something we're raised to respect and allow come-what-may. That's dangerous. It means we aren't allowed to question the merits and oppose in any way the "faith" of anyone. They need only say "this is my faith, back off" and people are expected to do just that.

ID proponents are simply taking that one step further. Don't just unquestioningly tolerate my faith, they demand, but also don't dare try to remove it from whatever forum in which I feel it belongs. As you very adeptly pointed out, you cannot make something math or science just by "saying so". That isn't how it works no matter how much faith one has.

This ridiculousness needs to end. It's an affront to legitimate science and the educational system to simply jam an unsubstantiated supposition into a subject that shouldn't have to bear it.

2006-12-08 04:17:33 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 7 1

I apologize for my answer on your previous question. While I had assumed that your question was something of a provocative conjecture I couldn't be sure with some of the questions on here.

I'm glad to say that I agree with you fully on this topic. I believe that scientific fact and basic logic should be differentiated from religious beliefs within public schools and if possible from that which is preached to children in any case.

It's not always possible since the freedom of speech and action regarding children extends to a parents ability to teach their child just about anything.

Science and religion should not relate within a public education system. It's a ridiculous suggestion and would negatively effect the mental development of a child.

2006-12-08 08:30:16 · answer #2 · answered by Johnny! 2 · 1 0

I ask for forgiveness for my answer on your previous question. on an identical time as I had assumed that your question grow to be some thing of a provocative conjecture i could not be particular with many of the questions approximately right here. i'm happy to assert that I consider you totally in this subject count. i've got self assurance that scientific actuality and consumer-friendly common sense could be differentiated from religious ideals interior of public faculties and if a probability from that that's preached to infants in spite of everything. that is not continuously a probability because of the fact the liberty of speech and action on the topic of infants extends to a dad and mom ability to teach their new child very almost something. technology and faith shouldn't relate interior of a public training device. this is a ludicrous advice and could negatively result the psychological progression of a new child.

2016-12-13 05:14:14 · answer #3 · answered by mcgarr 3 · 0 0

I could say the same thing about evolution. The evidence for evolution has been gathered as a way to prove evolution, as opposed to finding evidence and forming a hypothesis around the evidence. If science held evolution up to the empirical evidence standards set forth for any other theorem, evolution would have long ago been refuted. The original theory has changed over 80 percent since its inception - no other scientific theorem would be allowed an 80 percent inaccuracy. The mathematics alone involved in producing a procreating life form are so enormous as to make the theory mathematically impossible. Even so, there are those that cling to this theory as fact and would teach everyone it is a fact. I strongly urge you to do some research on the subject - not just what was taught in school, but in depth. I think that you'll realize that evolution is just not a viable alternative theory.

2006-12-08 04:23:29 · answer #4 · answered by padwinlearner 5 · 0 5

Bravo! Absolutely. Creationists are so intent on getting their ideas pushed forward, they forget that if they do, the rest of us (which, I agree, is most of us with an "IQ above 31!") must be afforded the same privilege. So the more they advertise their ideas, the more we can (and probably should) advertise ours!

2006-12-08 04:21:20 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Well said! I'm with ya all the way. Freedom of religion does not alllow people to force their fairy tale myth to other people through public education.

2006-12-09 05:11:14 · answer #6 · answered by rb_1989226 3 · 1 1

Well, I put it in a beaker, heated it to 220 degrees, boiled it down, placed it in a dish, added a few chemicals, and came to the conclusion that you are correct. Science is a religion and should not be taught in school.

2006-12-08 04:19:42 · answer #7 · answered by Fish <>< 7 · 0 2

Im right there with ya kid.

2006-12-08 04:17:14 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

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