Isnt it funny that people will admit religion is illogical and faith based?

Question

then they will say something like its a fact? like they will say jesus died for your sins and they will leave out the part "according to christianity" lol

my teacher whos a minister admits it and says thats part of accepting christ

"Please name one thing about theism that is illogical and I'll gladly concede. Theism is, 100%, within the bounds of logic. Prove to me otherwise."

-a virgin giving birth
-noah building an ark with every single animal in the world on it
-moses putting his hands in the air and splitting the sea in half.

should i go on?

Answer 1

Hey, not sure I care for the question so much but that part about Jesus being in hell to pull people's fingernails out is a bit of an eye-opener. You go, Christians!

Yes, I find people's inability and stubborn unwillingness even to explore, even within their minds, where facts and knowledge end and belief begins quite puzzling. But people don't come here to learn anything, they only want validation of their POV (though, again, the Christ in Hell picture is a new one for me - I've learned something).

Answer 2

Who said Christianity is illogical? Of course it is faith based, but that does not mean that we abandon reason to become a Christian. Jesus told us to love the Lord with all our heart, soul, and mind. That means that I am allowed to think through my decision, based on verifiable facts, and accept or reject based on the evidence. My heart cannot rejoice in what my mind has rejected. Faith comes in when we are talking about the basis of salvation - which cannot come by reasoning. So even though I can make an intelligent decision about the claims of Christ with my mind, if I do not exercise faith in what His sacrifice has done for me, than have nothing more than a set of religious facts and beliefs, but no life-change. The Bible has proven to be accurate and reliable, historically and archeologically, and passes the test for genuiness and authenticity in a much greater way than any other book of antiquity. Those who claim it is illogical are those who have not honestly examined the evidence or who approach religion with a presupposition that precludes them from being able to see past their on bias.

Answer 3

I don't know about "funny." It's illogical because human beings have a limited capacity for intelligence, and its faith based because it's, um, religion. This is only funny because humans have a really difficult time seeing outside of their own time and space and reasoning.

It is true that Jesus died according to Christianity. However, people's personal beliefs cannot change Truth. And since we can only know the Truth through faith, it is impossible to explain the Truth of Christianity to a non-christian without faith on their part.

Find something better to do than laugh out loud at others beliefs.

Answer 4

Please name one thing about theism that is illogical and I'll gladly concede. Theism is, 100%, within the bounds of logic. Prove to me otherwise.

Red Eye Agnostic: How do I comment directly to yours? (I don't know where to click so I'll just modify my reponse)...

Do you know the bounds of logic? How can you say that those things are beyond logic? There have been many things in the past that humans deemed miracles when science later proved them completely feasible. Would you disagree? Not to mention that because you do not understand the limits of logic, something could very well occur and Red Eye Agnostic calls it ridiculous when God is simply just showing you again that what we think are limits---and are limits for us---are certainly not limits for Him. Anyway, it just shows that religious peoples believe things that are beyond our reasoning power---which does have limits---while atheists/agnostics refuse to think they're fallible and will not accept that they have a Creator who is. It's merely a difference in opinion but don't say it's illogical. Was quantum physics in line with what we knew of logic at the time major discoveries were being made in it?

Answer 5

Sure religion is illogical depending upon who is defining logical. A lot of it also depends upon experience. For example, if an angle came down to me and my friend, spoke to us, did amazing things, and the two of us could confirm to each other that it happened it would not be illogical for us to believe in angles. On the other hand, if you never saw an angle you might say that it is illogical to believe in angles.

Answer 6

I think I haven't seen enough people admit it is illogical and faith based, and far too many insist it is fact.

I don't mind the idea that people believe in something that cannot be proved if that brings them sufficient satisfaction. You can't prove that a lot of concepts exist, yet they bring comfort just the same. (Love, for example. We cannot truly explain nor comprehend it, yet many of us would die for it.)

It's when believers insist that their beliefs are FACT, and that you are blind and foolish for not seeing it, that I have to go hide in a closet for a while until my brain stops hurting.

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Answer 7

There is nothing illogical about Christianity. In fact, it makes all the sense in the world. To believe that all we know came from nothing, and some day we'll make the world a better place is illogical.

Answer 8

I really wonder why people like you feel so uncomfortable with their own beliefs that you have to go around bashing and discrediting what others believe in just because you don't "get it". Are you truly that insecure with what you believe?

Answer 9

No it's not funny, but sad, They tell you Jesus loves you but then you look at the world and you can see that he does not love everyone or anyone and that's the sad but true fact

Answer 10

You read newspapers and watch TV and you take for granted everything you read and see even though you yourself were not there to eye witness it for yourself, Why? Isn't that illogical and taking someone elses word on faith. OOOH! Must have hit a nerve. :)