the question someone asked about 'how easy is our british immigration system'. answer- it 'isnt'
who are you kidding. you must be reading this crap from some website, unless you work for the shambolic visa office thats letting in every tom, dick and harry. everyone knows that this country does not abide by this policy. immigrants that come here can claim automatic asylum, which entitles them to benefits and temporary housing. what do you mean they get nothing, especially for years. this is a contributing factor why the benefit and nhs systems are on the way to meltdown. and why there is such a shortage of housing. you wait until january, how do you think they are going to house the wave of immigrants coming here? they have to allocate quotas in every borough, so anyone with absos esp watch out!
2006-12-07 22:33:00 · 7 answers · asked by emzc 4 in Politics & Government ➔ Immigration
Poorly put, but accurate
2006-12-07 22:37:55 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
I am not sure if you are asking a question, or having a rant.
I would be interested to know exactly what your personal experience is of the immigration system? Are you getting mixed up between immigration and asylum perhaps?
I am working in the UK on an ancestry visa - I must work to support myself and I have "No recourse to public funds". This means that although I pay into the National Insurance scheme, I cannot claim job-seekers allowance if I lose my job, nor any housing benefit or tax relief. I can, at the end of my visa, apply for indefinite leave to remain - application fee £355 - this will allow me to stay indefinitely as long as I can prove I have worked the whole time of my visa. If granted it will still come with the proviso that I have no recourse to public funds.
I am, as a result, less drain on this country's resources than a large proportion of its native born citizens.
If I wish to get married to a British National, I have to get permission from the Home Office and pay a fee of £135 just to ask. Before you accuse me of using this as a method of staying here - it gives me no rights at all. I still have to apply to stay and pay £355 and I will only, at that point (if the request is granted), have indefinite leave to remain - not citizenship.
Luckily, I do not require British citizenship (I am quite happy with the citizenship I already have). We intend to return to my home, but have to honour my (British) partner's commitments here for several years first.
Do NOT tell me you have an easy immigration system!
Before you rant and rave it would be a very good idea to check your facts - the immigration requirements that have to be met, on the Home Office website, would be a very good place to start!
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/applying/applicationforms/
Happy Reading
2006-12-08 08:08:13 · answer #2 · answered by Sue 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
You are wrong when you say "immigrants that come here can claim automatic asylum, which entitles them to benefits and temporary housing"
This is simply untrue. I know a lot of people believe it is true, but it is not.
Firstly immigrants are different from asylum seekers, most immigrants are not asylum seekers and people claiming to be asylum seekers have to prove it. There is no such thing as 'automatic asylum'.
Secondly, asylum seekers and economic migrants are not entitled to benefits. Some get a lower level of benefit from what a British or EU citizen would be entitled to get; and some get nothing at all.
Thirdly, the only automatic housing they would get is in a prision-type 'reception centre'.
EU citizens are entitled to come here, work,. pay taxes and if between jobs, claim benefits, the same as UK citizens can do in other EU countries. Thousands of UK citizens benefit from this by taking up jobs, buying property or enjoying their retirement in other EU countries.
Many of the people who are labelled immigrants or asylum seekers are British citizens of overseas origin or EU citizens moving within the EU.
As a teacher and voluntary advice worker I have seen many British citizens facing problems with housing and health services, but without exception, the problems faced by poor immigrants are far worse.
Often they are not entitled either to work or to benefits but rely entirely on handouts from friends, family and charities, or end up doing dirty, dangerous lowpaid jobs that our own citizens would not be prepared to do.
The answer to Britain's housing crisis is to allow more council homes to be built and to increase interest rates which would encourage people to save more and would lower house price inflation. It is a shabby and unfair lie to blame immigrants for the housing situation.
As for the NHS, it could not survive without the skilled and dedicated staff from other countries, from cleaners to consultants, who work in it.
I am proud to be British, and of the British tradition of fairness and justice and providing a safe haven for people from around the world, but some of the attitudes to migrants expressed here make me ashamed of some of my fellow Britons.
2006-12-08 06:55:17 · answer #3 · answered by Bridget F 3 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Get your facts right. Asylum seekers cannot claim benefits and they cannot work. They depend totally on charities and private funding, the government give nothing. They are held in detention centres, or sheltered housing until their papers are checked which can take up to a year and even more in some cases. If you had a child that was starving and had bombs dropping near its head, then maybe you would want to go to another country. Dont be ignorant. The UK has no money, for NHS and housing as they spend it on ******* wars.
2006-12-08 06:44:28 · answer #4 · answered by Annie M 6 · 3⤊ 3⤋
english airports are a disgust. the security i mean so many people with fake passports getting through. why do they come here. to make money and then what so they can leave i mean.. if they're not allowed here and we know there here SEND THEM BACK FOR CRAPS SAKE. people are only responsible for themselves i dont even think there should be any benefits. stupid tax. some people get into so much debt in tax that they end up having to move out some people lose there job.. then THEY end up on benefits ..
2006-12-08 06:37:52 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
Yes , I am having a laugh!
Clock has seen so many revolutions in the dial that the people who kept pouring in money from other nations, and are proud of that are now getting poured in with the people.
Once upon a time you people kept going on to other nations to bring back money (By whatever means, by whatever reasons).
Its now their turn.
Beware, bring in better laws, strict regulations and fullproof implementation. Or otherwise
Your country will loose all its identity in about every manner.
Its hard to read, as usual the Truth.
2006-12-08 06:46:36 · answer #6 · answered by aniruddha 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
With you all the way. Just been reading about the influx in January Where Mr Reid (bless him) has said he will not take unskilled workers. Guess what. The E.U are saying it's illegal. Why would all these people want to come to a country knowing their not welcome?
2006-12-08 07:07:46 · answer #7 · answered by David 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋