Is it wrong to hate a "religion of hate"?

Question

Im not Christian, and thus, dont love those who decide to make me their enemy based on their miserable idea of God.

Instead I look at hate in evolutionary terms. Can it ever serve a useful purpose? Sure, it can consume you, but where does it make sense. I mean, the devil doesnt exist (the only idea as absurd as Muhammad's prophethood) so hate doesnt come from "evil" or "satan" but instead serves or did serve some purpose in nature.

In my view, the idea that hate was a useful feeling in terms of more remote, but real threats, makes sense. For example, you live in a tribe. In your hunting grounds, another tribe settles in, and some form of co-existance begins. Overtime, you realize their cultural norms are of the kind that are certain to threaten you in the future (ex: they eat your offspring or believe in jihad). Would hatred serve an important purpose here?

I blame Christian morality for 'hatred not returned' at the people who have immense hatred for us. Its pathetic.

Answer 1

All religions are man made to control people and deny them their rights as individuals, so they all should be hated.
Tammi Dee

Answer 2

Methinks they philosophical meanderings leadest thee astray.

I don't believe that all emotions have a necessary evolutionary cause. It's conceivable that if there is no God, that emotions are a result of a consciousness that came about through evolution, but that not all, in themselves, serve an evolutionary purpose.

That said, I happen to believe in Deity. I'm not A Christian. I don't believe though, that it's necessary right to return hatred for hatred. An eye for an eye leaves a world blind.

I think that part of the reason the United States is so hated is not because of religion, but because of the imperialist attitudes that we ourselves fought against when other countries embarked on such a campaign.

We decried the evils of Comunism, but are striving always to export democracy. In Iraq, we want a democracy. We "help" countries establish democracies. Some countries don't want democracy. While we may not be colonizing, we are certainly exporting our own ideals, and some countries just don't want it.

Anyway, hate often has a reason. Sometimes it's irrational, sometimes not. In either case, it can at times be reversed. Many former enemies have come to be friends so hate, acted upon, may not always lead to a desirable end. Perhaps its best to respond to an immanent danger, but to refrain from action otherwise.

Answer 3

Considering who has be doing the most of the dying and who has been doing most of the killing they might be justified in their hatred.
You should also consider fear as a driver for anger and hatred.
I actually don't have much of a problem with the concept of killing for tangible gains. It is part of evolution.
Humans are the deadliest and most populous predator on the planet. We did not succeed by being stupid! We have several hundred millions of years of developing into the toughest deadliest creatures here.
Part of the reason that we try to put ways of avoiding violence in place is that we are just too damn good at it.
We have reached a point where we might actually be able to kill ourselves off.
I am atheist and I am also agonist.
Agonism is a school of political thought that considers that there will always be struggle, has always been struggle and that the war never ends. Definitely not the standard Utopian dreams of the Capitalists or of the Communists.
So the religion thing to me is not the point of war and I think it just clouds clear thinking.
War is a serious business and it should be carefully considered before being selected. Any delusional thinking that could cloud the calculations should not be entertained.
I have no real need for hating a person or loving them if it is going to mess up my judgement.
And God(s) are only ever on the side of the ones who get to write the history!

Now one of the curious points in Game theory is the optimal actions in "The Prisoner's Dilemma."
Screwing the other guy every chance you get does not work.
Being the good guy everytime does not work.
Following the Satanist Commandment of "Do unto others as they have done unto you" does work.
In fact one program running on this principle in the simulations soon taught the others to play nice and get along, maximizing the returns for all surviving programs.
Programs that tried to work out more complicated algorithyms of when to betray and when to honour died almost as fast as those that were nasty all the time.

Answer 4

Hate, guilt, fear - all pretty unproductive emotions.

In a primitive tribal sense, yes - wiping out a tribe that did something other than your norm might make a kind of evolutionary sense. Clubbing the crap out of your neighbor worked a little better 10,000 years ago. But society has evolved a lot since then. Blind hatred for a group is a backwards way of thinking.

Answer 5

Meditate more. Think more. Read the bible?

I know it's quite pathetic to not return it when they hate you. Then imagine you are one of them, when they see a person not affected by your hate, you get even more enraged and hate him more. Doesn't it sound like the Pharasees(spelling?) and Jesus? If you are a non-hater, it means you are closer to Jesus! You are more holy! Who do you want to be in the comparison? Pharasee or Jesus?

To love someone that hate you, it is perhaps more better to love someone that loves you. To love someone that hate you means you filled more of the gap, ain't it? ^^ Nyah, nyah I figured that out muhself! Wahahaha! *ahem* anyway, here's a story about Muhammad the prophet and a beggar, I read it in the student magazine:

A blind beggar hated Muhammad, so everyday he cursed and told others that were passing by to do so at the place he was sitting. One day, footsteps approached the beggar. He told him the same message. The man said nothing, later he came back with food. He chewed it so it could be easy to swallow, and fed the man. Every evening, the stranger came and chewed the food, and fed the beggar. Everyday the beggar felt secured and happy, but not forgetting to remind the stranger to hate Muhammad the prophet. The stranger just keep his routine everyday without saying a word.

So one day, the man did not come. The beggar felt hungry. But to top it all off, he felt insecure and even worried for the man. Has he been in trouble? Is he okay? In Muhammad's house, a funeral is commencing. Muhammad's best friend (I forgot the name) asked Muhammad's wife is there something that Muhammad will never leave behind. The wife know of nothing, except for the beggar at the street. So the friend went that evening to feed him. When the first food were in the beggar's mouth, he spat and cursed "Why are you here? you are not him. He chews my food, he bathes me, he stays with me until I sleep! You don't chew the food so it is not you!" The friend said Muhammad has passed away, and HE is the one who always feed the beggar, and the beggar is the only thing that Muhammad can't seem to leave behind. From that day the beggar was touched and sad he wasted his life cursing him and started spreading Islam instead.

Yeah, it may take a long time, but it is worth it. And it is OUR job to ensure they live a holy life. This goes the same with your 3rd paragraph. Let me ask you: Would you hate and kill a prisoner, or love him, change him, and release him, so he can live( a life can be saved), be good, and benifit society? And even save others from going to the bad side! Yes, again, it may take long, but it is worth it, it is OUR job, and hate was NEVER appropriate in the Bible. Even you don't believe of devil and stuff, why don't try to love some you-hate and hate-you people? I bet they would be suprised, and touched in the end. Even if it does not work, you know, you will always know, your heart is on the right side.

If you are soldiers, FIGHT! Yes! We are all soldiers in this life, trying to live and not foul up in this life that we could only live once. But to love all people, and change all people, why not? YOu have the ability to do so, judging from your words, you have charisma. To hate, according to your last paragraph. Think further. if you return it, won't it be like, hating each other and never end? Sometimes even the biggest wars need to sign peace treaties and documents, to end the war, you know.

You think thouroughly and logically. I just feel quite sorry you feel that way. Seemingly we are all alike^^ I know it is long, but hope it helped...! Honest!

Answer 6

Very interesting words.
The Bible doesn't preach hate, it condemns it. Yet some of the most hateful people I've ever met have been staunch Christians. Yet at the same time I've met (a very few) wonderful Christians who actually try to live like Christ instead of screaming at gays and athiests all day long.
It's a shame the majority give it a bad name.
I agree with what you said about hate being useful in an evolutionary sense though.

Answer 7

As you say, maybe hate was useful in the past but how useful is it now? Very useful if you consider the motive. Hate Saddam Hussein and the next thing you know he's pulled out of a hole in the ground as a prequel to hanging. I'd say hate was very effective in this case, depending on your point of view. Hmmm, now that I think about it, I never thought of it as scapegoating hate to invent Satan, but it makes sense -- It's not me, the devil made me do it. Explains a whole lot of things. But I digress. My short answer is that hate and violence are connected. You hate a "religion of hate" you are willing to commit violence towards it. And there's your vicious circle. Think more about how to break the circle. Practice contempt, disgust and disdain for that which you would otherwise hate, and go about doing great things and fun things, and lead by example.

Answer 8

It is good to see you address Christians in a peaceful and respectful manner even though you are not Christian. We Muslims would also like to see some of it coming our way because so far we only recieved hatred from you. Hmm and like you said "Can it ever serve a useful purpose?". Exactly thats my question to you also.

Answer 9

If you were right why don't animals hate? They only act out of self preservation but never hate. To hate is to harbor thoughts about another wishing them harm even if they are no threat to you. How could this have ever come about if we are not a "higher" being then an animal and if we are how could that be unless a higher being than us existed?

Answer 10

I believe you are making mere suppositions and quite a few at that. Attacking Christian morality is a broad and gross overstatement to assume that Christ was the only person to teach to not return hate with hate.

Answer 11

properly,once you're saying you adore Jesus,its a sturdy component.yet once you're saying all different religions are incorrect then your thinking is incorrect.you spot faith is a component which all human beings follows for a private quest,so as which you get religious happiness,sturdy teachings from which you will learn effective.Our techniques of worship are diverse,however the ethical is the comparable.No faith teaches to abuse or insult different faith trouble-free reason because of the fact all Gods are one.You prepare your faith peacefully and enable others their own.