Conventional war between Russia and the US, who would win and how?

Question

On Russian soil.
No nukes, of course.
No allies.
Defeat or surrender ?

I'd bet all my money plus yours on the US.

Over-all you said the US in likelihood, would win.
some peeps said Russia, and raised the point of how tenacious they fought in WW2...even a marine said we'd have one hell of a time, so ...

Carpet Bombings 24/7...sorties after sorties?
Do you really believe Russia could withstand bombardment from both air and sea? I mean for long?

Answer 1

There is no doubt it would be a burtal and costly war for both sides. In the end, however, US forces would likely prevail.

We are talking Russia, not the Soviet Union, so many of the beffer regions and sources of manpower are already taken out of the equation. A majority of the Russian soldiers are conscripts with little to no technical training which keeps most of their weapons and equipment realtively low-tech.

While Russian does have some high quality armour and attack aircraft, these are in very small numbers. US air supiriorty might not come as quickly as in the firt Gulf War, but it would come. The Russian Navy is a shell of its former self with most of its ships falling into disrepair.

I noticed many people brought up the German's being repelled during World War 2. I do not believe that is a viable argument for a few reasons. First is the fact that the German military made poor use of its airpower in area of disrupting logistics. The US has proven that it knows not to disregard an oppenents logistical base. Second would be the fact that, unlike Germany, the US would be able to attack on two fronts. From Europe on the west, and the US Mainland to the east.

As a final obersvation, during World War 2, the Soviets had the "No Step Backwards" policy. Many of the valiant and fierce stands made by Russian soldiers were made possible by the fact that they knew their own officers would not hesitate to kill them if they made an attempt to withdraw. I very much doubt that same policy could or would be enforced in this age.

As I said at first though, in either case it would prohibitively costly for both sides.

Answer 2

Americans like the Germans may do well at first but in the end they would be caught in the Russian winter like others before them and defeated.
Does Viet Nam and Iraq tell you anything?
Those who fail to learn from the lessons of history are doomed to make the same mistakes.

Answer 3

Russia is a ghost of what it once was from the soviet era. With the War being on Russian soil, the united states would enjoy the advantage of being on the offensive. (small scale guerilla warfare) Russia would be unable to mobilize enough troops to match a surprise invasions on multiple fronts. (assuming the american public would stomach a bloody war)

Answer 4

Maybe read up a little about World War II. The Germans had better equipment, but the Russians held them off. Besides which, the US troops are all worn out from Iraq and Afghanistant and our equipment is beat to pieces, so probably Russia, if you mean right now.

Answer 5

USA would win. We have much more experience fighting modern day wars. We have state of the art weapons, not weapons that are 20 years outdated like the russians. We have more resources to continue a fight than they do.

Answer 6

Russia of course , read your history ,Have we got a Walmart there yet?China would make a mint from all their cheap crap and supply both sides with arms.We can't handle a pissant country like Iraq and you want us to tackle a country that has no club Med,are ya nuts? They had nothing when the Nazi's went in and we all know how that ended(they did have a little help from us)...OK alot

Answer 7

Uncle Sam, bring them on we shouldn't have stopped at Poland in '45. Lets take theses commie bastards out and teach them a lesson. 1 of our boys is worth 10 of theirs. we are the best trained, most dedicated fighting force in the world. USA OKAY

Answer 8

as a Marine, i hate to say it, but Russia would win. Our troops are not trained for the cold weather, and our equipment is not designed for it. Russia recruits men and women as young as 14 yrs old. there daily training is as riggerous as our seal teams. Russia would take us by force.

Answer 9

We already have. read your history!!!!! we sent troops to russia right after ww1 ended. in the 1950's Krustev came to the US and said somthing to the fact "We havent forgoten when your soilders came to our soil and killed our people" no one knew what he was talking about

Answer 10

now or during the cold war. we would stomp them now. they are so poor they could not pay to fight us and have inferior equipment.

The cold war would have no winner the world would have ended in a several huge mushroom clouds