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South Park?

they say a guy from another universe, zenu, burned aliens in a volcano and now thier spirits are responsible for all of mankind's problems.

no wonder tom cruise has been behaving so strangely. it takes a certain kind of person to believe all that.

i thought that when christians explain christianity to non-believers that they had a hard row to hoe. can you imagine trying to get someone to join your religion when you have to tell them about an overlord from another galaxy freezing aliens and bringing them to earth and their spirits haunting and possessing cave-men millions of years ago.

and what's with those paddle things they make you hold while you talk about your feelings?

thanks :)

2006-12-06 10:31:49 · 8 answers · asked by Fled Nanders 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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It is ridiculous and regarding South Park, when they had "This is what Scientologists actually believe" on the screen, they WEREN'T kidding. That's what Scientologists ACTUALLY BELIEVE.

The Scientologists in the crowd will naturally do their best to run interference and deny everything, but that's what they've been taught to do. They are compelled to defend the indefensible at all costs.

Oh, those "paddle things" are two tin cans that are hooked up to a small machine called the "e-meter", short for "electroencephaloneuromentimograph". Quite a mouthful, isn't it? They tout it as the means by which we rid ourselves of "engrams" (past negative experiences that may cause mental and/or physical ills), but every "e-meter" must predominantly display this warning on it's side:

The E-Meter is not medically or scientifically useful for the diagnosis, treatment or prevention of any disease. It is not medically or scientifically capable of improving the health or bodily functions of anyone

This is what they believe in (including aliens):
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ap8nVqpmRkLIn2rqXNPxlCEjzKIX?qid=20061124162841AAdJv3F
This is how they sell their cult to others:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AsRBlApM2mdSw7XfXIAgOqwjzKIX?qid=20061125081249AAPtMJV
This is how much it costs to involve yourself in their cult:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_as_a_business#Costs

2006-12-06 12:59:31 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

Well I suppose if you only get your information from TV shows and satires that get laughs by making other people or religions in general (like South Park) look ridiculous.... then you would have that general impression about most things.
That goes for anyone else. This forum seems to have quite a few chronic TV watchers, and general "critics", so I'm sure you are not the only one.
Don't worry about it.
Fortunately Scientology isn't like the TV shows.
But then real life and TV are two very different things.
Hopefully one day you will notice this fact.

Just in case you ever do.... This is what Scientology is about.

Scientology is an applied religious philosophy. When I say "applied" I mean you actually use it in your life to change or improve existing conditions. It is a very practical religion.
All religions if you learn about them have a basic philosphy, but they also have certain dogma, rituals and observances, and a certain faith or belief is required. There is nothing wrong with this, but Scientology is not that kind of religion. It does not intrude on anyones faiths of beliefs particularly in the area of God , the Supreme Being, or the Infinite. This area is left totally up to the indivdual, which is why you can be a practicing Jew,for example and still use and apply the priniciples of Scientology in your life. It does not conflict. If anything it will enhance your understanding of your chosen religious practice.
You can have no specific religious beliefs and still benefit from using it.
And it is only true for you according to your own observation and experience with it.
It is a non denominational religion . The dictionary definition that applies:
Religion: The spiritual or emotional attitude of one who recognises the existence of superhuman power or powers.

The most basic principle of Scientology is that YOU are your own immortal soul, that this is not a "thing" you HAVE but what YOU actually are.
The whole purpose of Scientology is to increase an individual's understanding and awareness of himself. and lifeAnd thereby his native abilities .
When you do this the sphere and zone of his positive influence increases and moves outward into his life, his family ,his friends, his groups and mankind which he is part of.

How this result is achieved is the "technology" of Scientology, which was developed by L.Ron Hubbard after his extensive research and the discoveries he made, about the human spirit. The basic religious philosophy and knowledge of Scientology is very old, going back 10,000 years at least to the Veda or Vedic Hymns from the East. The developement of the technology is new.
He completed his research before his death in 1986 and left all of his results and copyrights
to the Church of Scientology along with most of his considerable personal estate, when he died.

He published a book in 1951 to communicate the basic principles he discovered called: " Scientology The Fundementals of Thought"
There are currently over 10 million Scientologists in more than 163 countries world wide. However we are a new religion, only 53 years old.
The true story of Scientology as a religion goes like this:
1. A philosopher developes a philosophy about life and death.
2. People find it interesting.
3. People find it works.
4. People pass it along to others.
5. It grows.

This is just an overview.
L. Ron Hubbard explained fully the theology and technologies of Scientology in more than 500,000 pages of writings, including dozens of books and over 2,000 tape-recorded public lectures.

Don't worry I'm not expecting to get picked as best answer. But this is an open forum and I get my 2 points for answering your question!!

2006-12-06 15:28:52 · answer #2 · answered by thetaalways 6 · 0 1

I've never seen the nip/tuck show nor do I know anything about Scientology but if Tom Cruise represents the rest of the Scientologists that I'd be very turned off. I think he is a nut.(not Scientologists)just him

2006-12-06 10:38:47 · answer #3 · answered by gitsliveon24 5 · 0 1

You shouldn't make any judgements unless you are willing to investigate the matter yourself. Would you appreciate it if your familty acquired a "reputation" because of what someone else had said about it???

2006-12-06 10:36:06 · answer #4 · answered by Rance D 5 · 2 0

Sorry you are mistaken. What you are mentioning has nothing to do with Scientology ideas and believes.

THIS IS SCIENTOLOGY

1. What is true for you is what you yourself observe to be true.

2. Man is his spirit not his mind or his body.

3. The spirit creates his own mind. Please, do not confuse the mind with the brain that is a physical thing. The mind is composed of mental image pictures as explained in Dianetics. These pictures serve the spirit to give him knowledge and experience. These pictures are composed of energy. The energy in the picture can affect the spirit. You can feel better by remembering something that you like or angry by remembering something else. These emotions are actually energy waves emanated by the picture. You can actually feel pain by remembering a pain memory. Sometimes these pictures are accompanied by ideas or considerations. Lets suppose that you father beat you mom up in front of you. Your father was the dominating figure so you might conclude that you have to act like your father in some situations. This is what we call on Scientology an aberration (a conclusion that is imposed to you by a mental picture). This picture is what we call a engram (a pain memory that affects your judgment and free will).

4. You can discharge the energy in these pictures through communication. This is Dianetics Auditing and is the oldest of hundreds of Scientology techniques used to improve the individual.

5. The Spirit creates his own emotions. Are you happy? Are you sad? Are you depress? Maybe you think that something external of you is creating your emotions. Maybe you believe that you are sad because you had a bad day or maybe you believe that you are happy because you had a great day. And this might be true. But who made the decision that you had a good or bad day? You did. You decided if life was good or bad, and adjusted your emotions to respond to your own consideration. You created your own emotion.
Some people are born with everything they want and are still unhappy. And others are born into humble means and are happy. What's the difference? The only real difference is each person's ideas and considerations.
Scientology uses hundreds of processes in order to help a person get a better understanding and a better outlook in life by using his own observations.

6. Scientology Ethics. Ethical people take full responsibility for their actions. Un-ethical people blame others for their actions. "Wrong doings" diminish and deteriorate the freedom of the spirit because the need to justify the "wrong doing". So the spirit is enslaved into repeating the "wrong doing" in order to justify the original "wrong doing". The road to freedom lies within taking full responsibility for your personal condition and actions, past, present and future. Scientology provides the tools to help the person able to be fully responsible over his life thus rehabilitating his ability to be good and self determined.
Also Scientologist base their conduct on a non-denominational code of conduct. http://twth.org/eb/?id=16664j

7. Scientology and God. Scientology acknowledges the supreme being and promotes the individual search for closeness to God trough religion.

8. Scientology vs Psychiatry. Psychiatry believes that self awareness, feelings, love and faith is merely cellular activity. Basically they think that you are your brain and you are not in charge of your behavior but your cells are.This is a totally materialistic point of view that denies the spirit and God. Psychiatrist is a pseudo science because it is based in principles that are false. Psychiatry have never proven that any "mental illnesses" (like they call it) has any connection with a physical illness. Any Neurologist will tell you there are no medical test to identify a "mental illness". All Psychiatrists base their diagnosis on opinion and opinion alone.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3895596783332855545&q=Psychiatry+is+fraude&hl=enhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8443414209115892468&q=scientology&hl=en

http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?p=cchr&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&b=1&oid=12085d1e6c58d04e&rurl=video.yahoo.com&vdone=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fvideo%3Fp%3Dcchr%26toggle%3D1%26cop%3Dmss%26ei%3DUTF-8
Happiness, exhilaration, depression and psychosis are states of mind, not diseases. All what you have to do to stop being depress is change your state of mind. How you do that? By changing your ideas and considerations. Scientology provides the tools to achieve a better state of mind in accordance with your own point of view.
Also Psychiatrist excuse the most horrendous crimes as mental illnesses. This is actually creates a sense of irresponsibility in society because it tells people that they are not responsible for their actions. Second they promote that drugs are the answer for your problems. This message promotes the use of drugs to find release from life and creates the current drug addiction problem in society. Drugs will only give you temporary false release but will never solve the source of your problems.And actually drugs will keep you away from finding a true spiritual release.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4437051883726295326&q=psychiatry&hl=en
Note: Scientology doesn't have anything against Psychology or Neurology. Also the mere awareness that you are a spiritual being and not a body makes you better person.

9. Scientology is a force for good in society. Scientologist fights Psychiatry, the pharmaceutical companies, criminality, http://www.criminon.org and drug addiction. http://www.narconon.org Also Scientology fought and won against the FDA and the IRS. And Scientologist initiated the social reform group "Youth for Human Rights" http://www.youthforhumanrights.org and the movement "Say no to drugs and yes to life". http://www.notodrugs-yestolife.org
Scientologist are some of the more intelligent, able and successful people in this planet. Including Jenna Elfman, Kelly Preston, John Travolta, Priscilla Presley, Sofia Milos and Leah Remini. Even Danny Masterson from the that's That '70s Show is a Scientologist.

10. Scientology and aliens. The story of Xenu is just a fable like the story of "Jonah in the Whale" in the bible. Fables are not intended to be taken seriously. The story of Xenu doesn't have any significance on Scientology beliefs.

11. Scientology is so advance and so different that people can't understand it. People think that they know everything there is to know about life. And when they see Scientology they jump to conclusions when in reality they don't have a clue what are they talking about. The reality is that man attacks what he can't understand.
Anti-Scientology propaganda is just that, propaganda. It is false, bias and untrue. If you wanna know about the lies in this propaganda machine see my blog: http://www.myspace.com/129727315

References
http://www.chaplaincare.navy.mil/Scientology.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/scientol.htm
http://www.beliefnet.com/sem/scientology-religion.asp?source=YAHSCT&campaign=096&medium=PPC&nopop=1&WT.mc_id=YAHSCT&WT.srch=1

2006-12-06 11:59:43 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

It is wierd. .some ppl in NY tricked me into going to one of their churches to watch a video. complete and utter bullsh&t. They say some diseases like asthma and stuff are all in the mind and not really an affliction. Then we wanted to leave, but they wanted us to fill out a form. .we used fake names and identities. really really wacked out religion.

2006-12-06 11:01:35 · answer #6 · answered by ? 3 · 0 1

it`s good for a laugh though, especially Tom Cruise.

2006-12-06 10:35:23 · answer #7 · answered by Sentinel 7 · 0 1

its ALL about the money,honey

2006-12-06 10:35:08 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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