No one should say absolutely there is a God or not because there is no definitive?

Question

proof.It is a matter of belief .Even the religious texts are a matter of belief or not.So everyone needs to realise this fact and stop bickering

Answer 1

Everyone believes what they want..I believe there is a God but I don't go to church and I don't read the bible..I feel if I do what I think in my heart is the right moral ethical thing to do that I will go to heaven..What I hate is when people try to push religion on me and throe the bible in my face when I try to explain why I am not married to my boyfriend of five years who is also the father of two kids....We will not get married until it is acceptable for all people to join in the state of marriage...I think that people should believe and worship however they want to but get off my back just because I do not practice their way

Answer 2

We cannot force people to embrace reason, however as intelligent, thinking beings, we can try to resist ridiculous tendencies. As caring beings, we can try to protect our fellow humans from nonsensical, manipulative, irrational and dangerous thinking. The step from dogged faith to dangerous blind belief is indeed a small one, as history has proved time and time again.

Belief SHOULD always be based on reasonable, supporting evidence, not faith. Otherwise, what's to stop one from casually believe anything and everything people say? If it were written in the bible that god will protect all men who travel into outer space, would it be reasonable for NASA to remove the radiation shielding from spacecraft? Of course not! At a certain point, intelligence overrules our gullibility.

Nature and the universe adherer to certain laws. The more we learn about both, the more comprehensible and logical they become, hence one is compelled to BELIEVE in them not only because they provide a comfortable explanation but because they are rational and evidential supported. It naturally follows that everything, everywhere, even those parts of the universe that are yet unknown to us, will one day become comprehensible.

This, however, doesn't mean one should adopt ridiculous beliefs in the interim. We don't go through life believing there are big German chocolate cakes sitting in the center of black holes (well, maybe some people do) because it makes no sense until we can examine the center of black holes.

As a default explanation, god may feel nice, but really makes no sense. There are many controversial, illogical and contradictory aspects in the god theory, but even if there weren't, the main problem is this... all we KNOW about god comes from one source - ancient texts written by primitive humans. And the problem is, this information can never be tested, verified or questioned. Whether divinely inspired or not, the knowledge of god was provided by humans who declared it sacrosanct. In any other context, relying on information this way is reckless. You only do it if you have no other choice.

Today, we HAVE options. We can explore the origins of life and the universe directly. We can freely challenge claims without fear of being persecuted. People could not do this two thousand years ago. The only way people made sense of the universe back then was to conform to provided supernatural explanations. We can forgive ancient people for their ignorance, but not modern people.

God is a broad concept, so while it may still be unfashionable to declare there is no god, in light of the source of the god story, it's more than acceptable to strongly question all aspects of religion. If religion can't bear critical examination, what leg does it have to stand on?

In ANY AREA where science can offer a plausible explanation to displace an unprovable religious one, we would be foolish to cling to the supernatural. Doing so only impedes our growth as a species. People should question everything, ALWAYS.

Answer 3

ur right religious texts are a matter of belief, but GOD is a matter of reason. its like saying there is no smoke with out a fire. a wrecked ship wont just fix itself and sail the seven seas, it has to be fixed. and the universe was created by a power greater than the greatest power known to man. now whether u believe or not is a mtter of ur concern sure, but u have a mind to reason before u believe so plz do.

Answer 4

You're right of course, it would be impossible to prove or disprove to a person who believes or doesn't. What I think you need to realize is how strong "belief" can be. A person is firmly convinced, one way or the other won't be swayed by evidence or lack thereof. For whatever reason their mind is made up, and some people are so intensly competative that they simply can't let other live as they chose, they are compelled to try and convince every one that they are "right".

Answer 5

There is proof of the non existence of a deity:

For knowledge to exist, three facts must be accepted as true:

- Math & Logic are valid
- Direct observations or aided observations supported by Math & Logic are valid
- Supernatural existence, if real, does not involve itself in the natural realm (otherwise, any 'fact' could be changed by the interference -- say by the God of Gravity changing his mind on how strong it will be tomorrow).

Free will can thus be shown to be false:

- The mind is a consequence of the physical nature of the brain (Nonsupernatural causation axiom).
- Quantum physics contains a truly random component (Mathematical axiom)
- All observations can be expressed mathematically (Mathematical axiom).
- All principles causal to observations can be expressed mathematically (Mathematical Axiom).
- All mathematical expressions can be evaluated (Mathematical Axiom).
- An evaluation need not be deterministic, it can be stochaistic, that is, describing 'probabilities'. (Statistical mathematics).
- Since quantum physics can affect the human brain, and thus mind, the human state is mathematically stochaistic (consequential)
- If the quantum randomness is rescoped to be viewed as an input, the human brain ceases to be stoichasitic and is deterministic. (statement of rescope)
- A deterministically computable system is incapable of escaping its previous states, and produces outputs based on a computable result of the previous state and current inputs.(Turing-Church Thesis)
- Determinism counters free will. (By definition)
- Free will is not possible. (consequential)
- If a deity exists, free will is a natural consequence. (axiomic, potentially debatable. However, a deity that creates intelligence without free will cannot hold its creation responsible)
- Free will does not exist, therefore, deity does not exist. (modus tollens).

The idea of a god existing is disproven logically.

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If there is a flaw in it, I welcome any feedback.

Answer 6

To bad that's not a question huh? cuz then I would try to answer it. but I can agree. People should just believe in the religious beliefs they want and leave everyone alone including the atheist people

Answer 7

I see your point, but by that rationale nobody should say that there is a God either. What you're saying is that people shouldn't state their beliefs as fact. I guess there's an argument for that, but I don't think it'll ever happen.

Answer 8

Same with Zeus and Santa Calus.

Should we also agree that they may exist?

The rational answer is no. Similarly all of the other 100,000 deities which have been worshipped (including yours) are not worthy of belief until evidence can be provided.

Got any?

Answer 9

I just find that the total lack of evidence makes it very, very unlikely that there is. Note: I never said impossible.

I put it just as likely that Thor is still kicking around because the real hard evidence is the same. Heck the FSM is as likely from what I think.

Answer 10

I don't profess there is no god, I profess that there isn't any proof put forth by the theists to make me believe in a god, thus I *lack the belief* in the god. See? And that makes me an atheist.