Six years ago. Oldest sister Kim tells me that when she left her children with next oldest sister Erin, Erin punished Kim's kid in a way that was not acceptable. I told Kim that I didn't want to talk about Erin and Kim assured me that she wasn't saying anything that she already hadn't said to Kim. Erin got abusive and angry that I didn't take her side. The punishment was a time out for Kim's kid biting Erin's kid. I though it was pretty reasonable.
A couple of weeks later, I am visiting Erin and we have a few glasses of wine. She starts off on Kim and I stop her and say that I don't want to get into anything between them but for the record, I agreed that the time out was fair. Apparently when Kim told me that she had discussed it with Erin, was was lying. Erin was furious that Kim had talked about her (ironically because she herself was attempting to talk about Kim to me.) And then things got ugly. Erin told Kim I told her about what Kim had assured ne was already discussed.
2006-12-05
23:58:11
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For the months that ensued, I was verbally abused by Kim and totally shamed by Erin for "gossiping" when actually, I didn't gossip. I was opening talking about something that I was assured was public knowledge. So, Kim is a pathelogical liar and Erin is a blame shifter. I have not been welcome or comfortable at a family gathering since as I have been dubbed the troublemaker. Kim takes NO responsibility for lying and Erin takes no responsibility for attacking Kim without regard for the consequences. At the time, I believed that I was 100% to blame and apologized profusely to be met with abuse. I completely disconnected from the family (not my parents, just the abusive siblings). I got married without them, I had a baby without them. Now Erin is trying to say that I abandoned her and her kids, that I don't acknowledge them and that I've caused her so much pain. She's really a prima donna.
I am so disgusted with these people. Can I ever forgive them?
2006-12-06
00:02:45 ·
update #1
Oh yes, I shortly thereafter quit drinking and have not had a drop in 6 years. Partly because I believed at the time that my loose tipsy mouth caused a huge family fall out. Prior to that night, I never got involved with family conflicts unless it actually involved me and since haven't. the only reason I said anything in the first place is because Erin was crying about what a psycho Kim is and how hurtful and abusive she had been to her lately. I was trying to help her have a little confidence that she hadn't done anything wrong. I assumed she was talking about the "time-out incident" But in fact, Erin had NO IDEA that Kim even had a problem with it. I
2006-12-06
00:16:25 ·
update #2
And the reason this all came up is that I felt really bad that I no longer felt safewith or trusting of Erin. We had been in contact but there was always a part of me that just couldn't be myself around her. She recently said something to everyone in my family about a small phobia that I have after I had asked her not to and I decided that it was important, if I was ever going to have a true and honest relationship with her that we needed to discuss what happened 6 years ago as the recent event really brought back those issues of mistrust to me. She EXPLODED at me. She belittled me and invalidated everything that I said.
In a way, I do forgive because I think that they are both mentally ill. In another way, I am the most proud of my honesty & fairness and this situation has me pegged as a liar and a provoker. It sits poorly in my heart. Can I be forgiving but just not be involved with either of them? I pity them as long as I am not near them. If I am near them, I dislike them.
2006-12-06
01:00:34 ·
update #3
Oh the craziest pasrt is that they hang out still. Kim stopped talking to me and Erin is just dismissive of me but they visit with each other and their kids play. I'm the only one who is alienated!!
2006-12-06
01:08:20 ·
update #4