While thousands saw Jesus and heard his voice, Jesus himself said that this could not be done with God when he said: "No man hath seen God at any time." (John 1:18). "Ye have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His shape." (John 5:37) He also said in John 4:24: "God is a spirit and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth." That Jesus would say that no one had seen or heard God at any time, while his followers both saw and heard him, is clear proof that Jesus was not God?
2006-12-05 23:10:22 · 13 answers · asked by Don 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Hi.Suzanne. u caught me.
Hello.EyesLovesJ.. is that Jesus in your eyes i see?
Me.?Born of the flesh living by the spirit
2006-12-06 17:54:03 · update #1
15John testifies concerning him. He cries out, saying, "This was he of whom I said, 'He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.' " 16From the fullness of his grace we have all received one blessing after another. 17For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only,[e][f]who is at the Father's side, has made him known.
John 1:18 was actually John speaking not jesus. john was saying that jesus revealed god's true nature of grace and love to us. you forgot to include the rest of the verse which clearly still acknowledges that jesus is still god, that jesus, has made himself known.
36"I have testimony weightier than that of John. For the very work that the Father has given me to finish, and which I am doing, testifies that the Father has sent me. 37And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor seen his form, 38nor does his word dwell in you, for you do not believe the one he sent. 39You diligently study[c] the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me, 40yet you refuse to come to me to have life.
John 5:37 jesus was talking to a group of non-believers, they did not heed god's word, therefore they did not see jesus as god. In your version of the bible maybe it says god, in this version it says the father, when jesus, as part of the trinity, says god in this set of verses, he means god the father.
21 Jesus replied, “Believe me, dear woman, the time is coming when it will no longer matter whether you worship the Father on this mountain or in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans know very little about the one you worship, while we Jews know all about him, for salvation comes through the Jews. 23 But the time is coming—indeed it’s here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way. 24 For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.”
25 The woman said, “I know the Messiah is coming—the one who is called Christ. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”
26 Then Jesus told her, “I Am the Messiah!”[d]
John 4:24 Jesus had not yet revealed to the woman that he was in fact the messiah. Jesus made yet another reference to the trinity, the holy spirit. in those days before christ, the samaritans worshipped god in a particualar spot on the mountain, leading many of them to believe that god was a palpable entity on this physical plane. the woman was troubled and wanted to know why the sumaritans and jews worship in different places. jesus was saying that god is everywhere, and worship does not have to be an activity confined to just one place, that god is everywhere, worship can be done anywhere.
your arguement is taken out of context.
2006-12-05 23:43:08 · answer #1 · answered by alex l 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
God is mercifull and can forgive our sins if he wills. Why would he make his son die for our sins. He can simply forgive us without sacrificing anything. And even if you say Jesus died for our sins then why are Christians still doing sins. Will Jesus die again to clean these sins? If God can forgive the remaining sins now without letting His son die again then what was the point of Jesus's secrifice in the first place?
2006-12-06 07:36:11 · answer #2 · answered by Danish 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yes, Jesus is a different person from God as he is the Son of God.
I have a father but my father is not me...or are you also your father?
Jesus as God's son came in human form and people saw him,theydid not die at the sight of him. But no one can see God and live because his power is too great to behold. (also the fact that he resides in heaven, and the earth cannot contain his power)
2006-12-06 07:30:09 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
Hello Talent.. :)
Then later on in John..Jesus says:
John 14
Jesus the Way to the Father
1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8 ¶ Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
12 ¶ Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
ADDITIONAL: Hello..Thank-you for your kind words.. :)
Jesus lives within my heart and His light shines through my eyes.. :)
In Jesus Most Precious Name..
With Love..In Christ.. :)
2006-12-06 07:33:36 · answer #4 · answered by EyeLovesJesus 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋
He was simply saying that no one had seen God in His entirety -- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
2006-12-06 07:33:30 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
And the Word was made flesh. Jesus Christ, the Son of God, came in human form to save us all from sin.
2006-12-06 07:15:32 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 3⤋
Not only is this a recycled previous question from Yahoo Answers, but this has been posted on many Muslim web sites.
Proof:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006031512072
http://www.al-sunnah.com/mary&jesus.htm
JESUS IS GOD. Please research this matter yourself. A great place to start would be to read the Gospel of John:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%201&version=50
Peace.
2006-12-06 07:29:24 · answer #7 · answered by Suzanne: YPA 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
the whole of humanity was subect to sin and the devil and so God became a man to release us from this bondage,Jesus was fully Human and fully Divine,now if God had come to earth as He really is who could even bear to gaze upon Him,no-one could look on His awesome majesty and survive.
2006-12-06 07:16:00 · answer #8 · answered by Sentinel 7 · 2⤊ 2⤋
yes i know you see Jesus was god s son who was sent to earth to save us god is the only god.
2006-12-06 07:19:26 · answer #9 · answered by coolgirl 1 · 1⤊ 2⤋
may Allah bless you brother, that what iam believing on ..Jesus peace be up on him is a great prophet but not a god or son of the god .
2006-12-06 07:15:43 · answer #10 · answered by Alone 4 · 2⤊ 4⤋